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To: BP2
Militia Groups = Idiots EVERYTIME!

I won't make a moral appeal to fools, but even they should have some sense of self preservation.

When these stooges assemble, wherever they form a group, they should realize the odds are their group has an informant or informants. Finding the Rat or making the Rat is what the Feds do best.

If you are in a group quit, if you are considering joining don't. The more you get in the woods with guns and talk trash about the Gubmint or theologize some horse manure about the Anti-Christ or cockamamie racial theory the closer you get to crossing some line so the Feds can cancel your ass like a stamp.

270 posted on 03/29/2010 9:48:00 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Militia Groups = Idiots EVERYTIME!

When these stooges assemble, wherever they form a group, they should realize the odds are their group has an informant or informants.

If your point is “loose lips sinks ships,” that part is as true today as in the days we first declared independent against Tyranny.

Many historians believe Patriot Nathan Hale ("I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.") was hung in September 1776 after his Loyalist cousin, Samuel Hale, revealed Nathan's true identity to the British in New York.


However, being a member of a Militia is a Constitutionally-protected right, part of the Second Amendment.

In the DC v. Heller (2008) opinion, Justice Scalia clarified many important concepts regarding the Militia and the Second Amendment, such as this on pages 24-25:

There are many reasons why the militia was thought to be “necessary to the security of a free state.” See 3 Story §1890. First, of course, it is useful in repelling invasions and suppressing insurrections. Second, it renders large standing armies unnecessary—an argument that Alexander Hamilton made in favor of federal control over the militia. The Federalist No. 29, pp. 226, 227 (B. Wright ed. 1961) (A. Hamilton). Third, when the able-bodied men of a nation are trained in arms and organized, they are better able to resist tyranny.

If the charges against Hutaree true, it's folly and morally-wrong to condone their planned action.

BUT, part of the reason the Framers gave us the Second Amendment (and the Militia) is to leverage against the Government, to ensure the rights of the First Amendment would never fade away.

The Government SHOULD fear The People, not the other way around. It's a primary means to secure The People's rights and that those rights aren't swept away like we've seen time and time again in nations where the citizens are NOT allowed to own arms and maintain a Militia.

Furthermore, if the Government oversteps its authority and tiptoes on TYRANNY — like many agree that it IS — the power of The People and their ability "to keep and bear arms" cannot — again, CANNOT — be viewed by the Government as an EMPTY THREAT.

These Rights to "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State ... to keep and bear arms" were given to The People to use by our Founding Fathers, as the Founding Fathers had to secure and EXERCISE those rights against TYRANNY themselves.



351 posted on 03/29/2010 11:10:39 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Exactly - everything you said

If someone wants to go to ‘survival’ mode, there is a far cheaper and safer ways.

Everyone who can needs to start becoming as self sufficient for their basic needs as possible. This is wise, even if just on an economic level.

Ideally, get back with a piece of land that can provide your own water, garden space and wood for use in a wood stove. And have some kerosene lamps and always a few weeks of food on hand.

These are simple, basic preparedness steps in case of ANY emergency: illness, loss of job, power outage, Marxist take over.

You stay under the radar. If you have a hand gun, a deer rifle and a bird gun - that's sufficient and not likely to make you a red pin on the map.

It doesn't hurt to align yourself, find friends, that are of like mind - and steer clear of the fringe-people. Just be prepared and knowledgeable about how to take care of yourself and your family as to food, water, heat and light.

I grew up on a farm in the deep forest back in the ‘30-40’s. We had no electricity. But we always had a warm house, a years supply of food (in the garden/canning jars, barrels, barn, woods, waters, chicken coop) - and our own sweet well water. The Depression hit everyone hard, but not nearly as hard for us and the others around us. We had our basic needs.

Learn to become more independent. And stay under the radar.

497 posted on 03/29/2010 5:27:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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