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B-2s And Boomers
The Strategy Page ^ | 3/26/2010 | The Strategy Page

Posted on 03/27/2010 10:54:32 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

What do B-2 bombers and nuclear submarines have in common? Both cost about the same and both require periodic, and expensive, refurbishment. The U.S. B-2 bomber is the most expensive warplane ever to enter service. The 21 that were built ended up costing over $2 billion each. About half of that was development expense. At the time these aircraft were built (in the 1990s), they cost as much as a major warship. The B-2 has similar needs, including periodic (every seven years), lengthy (13 months) refurbishment (programmed depot maintenance, or PDM). Most of the PDM is devoted to refurbishing structural stealth features. PDMs, upgrades and operating costs nearly double the cost of each B-2 over its service life (30 or more years). There are 19 B-2s in service, and one used for R&D. One was lost in a 2008 accident. The U.S. B-2 bomber takes a lot of heat for its high price. Actual construction costs for each of those aircraft was about a billion dollars each. Still pretty high, mainly because a lot of special machinery and factories had to be built to manufacture the many custom components. The air force likes to point out that if the original (1986) plan had been followed, each B-2 would have cost half a billion dollars each. But then the entire program would have cost $58.2 billion, versus $44.3 billion for the 21 plane program (which included $10 billion more R&D expense).

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: aerospace; b2; dfens; maintenance; pdm; sumbarine

1 posted on 03/27/2010 10:54:32 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Cancel the F-22

Cancel the B-2

More money for freeloaders!!!!!!!!!

I wonder why?

Shouldn’t everyone know this story???

The First Time I Heard of Barack Obama

By Tom Fife

11-20-2008

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in.

The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:

“You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn’t do it.”

The general response went something along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.

“Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.”

The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.

“What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?”

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.”

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”

“Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League”. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.”

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he’d be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”

At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn’t understand what the point was and don’t recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘Blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African’”, she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.”

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.

So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.


2 posted on 03/27/2010 11:04:49 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Is that really a true story?


3 posted on 03/27/2010 11:18:54 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: sonofstrangelove
“If several hundred B-2s were produced under wartime conditions, each aircraft would have probably cost $200 million each, or less. In other words, a tenth of what it actually cost.”

Yep, nothing like a war to help save a few bucks. And if I switch auto insurance I can save hundreds of dollars.

4 posted on 03/27/2010 11:38:14 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

That’s quite the fairy tale.


5 posted on 03/28/2010 1:56:24 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (:: Happy Dependence Day!. ::)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Is this what is known as "hijacking the thread?"

Regards,

6 posted on 03/28/2010 4:07:43 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: sonofstrangelove

This is the true cost of socializing the USA. As more and more dependents crowd out the budget, military spending will take a back seat. Watch the number of US Navy warships (Carrier battle-groups) to get cut first. This will be the sure sign of decline. The debate will be around some canard like..”Carriers cant survive in modern naval combat..etc”..once our navy shrinks then its on to second rate power status. See the UK for an example of this. Social -welfare spending makes them moribund Euro-weenies.


7 posted on 03/28/2010 4:40:47 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
A good aviator always cross-checks his instruments.


8 posted on 03/28/2010 5:46:21 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The B-2 has to do the impossible and bring its crew back home successfully over and over again from the time it was built until decades into the future regardless of the threat. I don't see why that should cost any more than an SUV or a Prius.
9 posted on 03/28/2010 6:02:18 AM PDT by revo evom
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To: Yo-Yo

Well, speak to Tom Fife.

Sounds very believable to me, sincere guy etc.

He has not sought any publicity at all, too.


10 posted on 03/28/2010 6:50:21 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: alexander_busek

Well, sorry about that, but if we didn’t have a Marxist at the WH ......


11 posted on 03/28/2010 6:51:22 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: spetznaz

Very few people can say “In 1992 I was traveling often to the Soviet Union”

this Tom Fife guy sounds very sincere and believable to me ....

Sorry, but I believe him.

This Zero guy was a Marxist from birth —— his parents met in a Russian class,

and his bi-sexual Chicago Communist mentor had a 601 page FBI file, for God’s sakes.

So what’s the big surprise?


12 posted on 03/28/2010 6:58:17 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: spetznaz

I can’t resist: it’s not rocket science to see who this guy is:

Obama was a MARXIST in college, and still is now today.

Here is an interview with a Dr. Drew, a fellow student at the time, and therefore it is from someone who knew him very very well: send to everyone you know if you wish to spread the (blocked) word:

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/13/marxist-obama-why-the-media-has-been-silent/

http://www.wor710.com/pages/6350883

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGBszZ2Qw0

The full interview is devastating.

Too bad Fox News ignored Dr. Drew in 2008 when he contacted them.

We now know the details of Barry’s Occidental years.

He was an avowed and committed Marxist.

He looked forward to the revolution when the Marxists would overthrow our government.

His love for Marxism was unusually strong.

He looked forward to the revolution when the Marxists would overthrow our government.

His love for Marxism was unusually strong;

He was in passionate agreement with the most radical Marxist Leninist professors.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 7:01:20 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
The First Time I Heard of Barack

Under "Original Essays" left click on "On Barack Obama".

14 posted on 03/28/2010 7:20:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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