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Romneycare may come back to haunt Mitt on health issue
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| March 26, 2010
| Glen Johnson
Posted on 03/27/2010 9:34:34 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article:
Mitt Romney has a problem with Obamacare. It looks a lot like Romneycare.
Which is one of the reasons we have a problem with Romney. He looks a lot like Obama -- just an earlier "species"!!!!
To: Colofornian
Romney is just McCain with nice hair.
To: Colofornian
“MAY”?
No doubt about it.
He needs to save his money and himself the embarrassment of running
To: circlecity
This is the Republican problem: No leadership. Romney? Rudy? The Huckster? Pawlenty? Bueller? Bueller?
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:37:49 AM PDT
by
achilles2000
(Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
To: Colofornian
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:39:25 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: maine-iac7
Thursday, I heard him interviewd on a Christian talk show (Point of View) and the host read snippets of 2 articles on RomneyCare. Ironically, one was pro and one was con.
With Myth, there's always 2 sides to a story....
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:39:33 AM PDT
by
newfreep
(Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
To: achilles2000
"This is the Republican problem: No leadership. Romney? Rudy? The Huckster? Pawlenty? Bueller? Bueller?"
I'm liking that Ryan guy more everytime I see him. He and Pence might make a formidable combination.
To: Colofornian
Romney would look good as president of IBM. Good looking, perfectly coiffed, and dark suit/white shirt/tie.
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:44:11 AM PDT
by
george123
To: Colofornian
Massachusetts citizens remain haunted by the perversion wrought by Mitt RomneyCARE.
which is why the lying Romnster fled to La Jolla.
Cahill bashes (MA) state -- and national -- health care reform law
State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill, an independent candidate for governor, today offered
a wide-ranging and scathing criticism of the states universal health care law, saying it is
bankrupting Massachusetts and will do the same nationally, if a similar plan is passed in
Congress.
"If President Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform
here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American
economy within four years, Cahill said in a press conference in his office.
Echoing criticism leveled by Congressional Republicans in recent weeks, Cahill said, It
is time for the president, the Democratic leadership, to go back to the drawing board and
come up with a new plan that does not threaten to bankrupt this country.
In his defense, Romney admitted to Fox that about half of the real costs of extending
coverage to the uninsured (aka forcing young, healthy people to buy expensive
insurance they dont need) is covered by federal tax dollars. In other words, as expensive
as it is, without federal subsidies it would cost even more.
So when theres a federal Obamacare plan, who do we taxpayers turn to for our
subsidies? China? The United Nations? Mr. Spock and the United Federation of Planets?
Mr. Romney's subsidized coverage is meanwhile doing what entitlements do: crowding
out private insurers, compounding the cost explosion, walking the state toward rationing.
So long as the former governor clings to these central points of his health plan, he's on
the wrong side of free-market policy and public opinion.
This isn't going away for Mr. Romney either, which is why he'd do better by writing off
his own plan as a mistake that Democrats have made worse, and replacing it with a
proposal that deregulates and reforms the private market to lower insurance costs
(thereby achieving greater coverage).
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From CATO (the whole article is worthwhile): Before RomneyCare was enacted, estimates of the number of uninsured in
Massachusetts ranged from 372,000 to 618,000. Under the new program, about 219,000
previously uninsured residents have signed up for insurance. Of these, 133,000 are
receiving subsidized coverage, proving once again that people are all too happy to accept
something for free, and let others pay the bill. That is in addition to 56,000 people who
have been signed up for Medicaid. The bigger the subsidy, the faster people are signing
up. Of the 133,000 people who have signed up for insurance since the plan was
implemented, slightly more than half have received totally free coverage.
Health Care Speechwriter for Edwards, Obama & Clinton Now Without Health Insurance
I'm a critic because what Washington is talking about doing
has made health insurance unaffordable in Massachusetts.
Small businesses bridle at health insurance hikes (Romneycare strangles Mass. businesses)
some really bad news from Blue Cross-Blue Shield: His companys health insurance rates are going up 47 percent in January.
Rationing medicine has already begun
government-
run health care has introduced rationing and waiting lists and cost the lives of the people under its provisions.
DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.
You cant reap these savings without limiting patients choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.
State plan may place limits on patients hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )
"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare]
"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor wantor enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance planwe
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
How did we become outlaws?
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"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood."
It was only a matter of time.
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006."
A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay States Grand Experiment Fails [RomneyCare]
"Initiated on Mr. Romneys gubernatorial watch in 2006, this experiment has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.
Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care."
"Severe doc shortage seen hiking wait time
The shortage is getting more severe"
Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The states major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
Nations ill-advised to follow Mass. plan [Health plan a failure]
September 17, 2009 The canary is dead.
Massachusetts, the model for the ObamaCare universal insurance plan, is the canary in
the health care coal mine. Yesterday, its obit appeared on the front page of both The Wall
Street Journal and The Boston Globe-Democrat
"Bay State Insurance Premiums Highest in Country - Boston Globe August 22, 2009
Massachusetts has the most expensive family health insurance premiums in the country,
according to a new analysis that highlights the states challenge in trying to rein in medical costs
40 percent higher than in 2003. Over the same period, premiums nationwide rose an average of 33 percent..."
"Massachusetts: the laboratory for ObamaCare
"Massachusetts' Obama-like reforms increase health costs, wait times [RomneyCare]
Premiums are growing 21 to 46 percent faster than the national average"
"Mass. Pushes Rationing to Control Universal Healthcare Costs (RomneyCare)
A 10-member Massachusetts state healthcare advisory board unanimously recommended
that the state begin rationing healthcare to keep the states marquee universal health care program afloat financially.
"1,000 cancer patients 'refused treatment'"
"Massachusetts Universal Healthcare System Breaking Down Already
ERs in Massachusetts have not seen a downturn in visits. On the contrary, it seems that ER visits are actually on the upswing in the Bay State. In fact, in 2007 they were higher than the national average by 20 percent...
"Hospital patients 'left in agony'"
"National Health Preview - The Massachusetts debacle, coming soon to your neighborhood.
In Massachusetts's latest crisis,
They're trying to manage the huge costs of the subsidized middle-class insurance program that is gradually swallowing the state budget.
The program provides low- or no-cost coverage to about 165,000 residents, or three-fifths of the newly insured, and is budgeted at $880 million for 2010, a 7.3% single-year increase that is likely to be optimistic.
The state's overall costs on health programs have increased by 42% (!) since 2006
Mr. Romney should have known better before signing on to this not-so-grand experiment, especially since the state's "free market" reforms that he boasts about have proven to be irrelevant when not fictional.
Only 21,000 people have used the "connector" that was supposed to link individuals to private insurers."
A Very Sick Health Plan; Bay States Grand Experiment Fails [RomneyCare]
fiscal troubles aplenty within Repubican Mitt Romneys brainchild, Massachusetts grand experiment in universal health care."
"Initiated on Mr. Romneys gubernatorial watch in 2006, this experiment has fallen on hard times, and predictably so.
Even though the Bay State commenced its program with a far smaller percentage of uninsured residents than exists nationwide,
RomneyCare is threatening to bankrupt the state.
"Dem Congresswoman Admits Obama Health Care Plan Will Destroy Private Health Insurance Industry"
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:44:40 AM PDT
by
Diogenesis
("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
To: circlecity
I was with Pence for a while last week...better than Romney, but nothing special and probably not electable.
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:44:43 AM PDT
by
achilles2000
(Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
To: Colofornian
Romneycare may come back to haunt Mitt on health issue There is no “may” about it.
Romney is going to get hammered by both the right(in the primaries) and the left(if he should win the primaries) over Romneycare. He going to need to be a heck of a lot more slicker and more slippery than he's been so far if he is to survive that minefield.
To: achilles2000
I see Pence as the VP end of that pair and he might be good for that slot. I agree with you in regard to the Presidential spot.
To: Colofornian
I guess Glenn Johnson didn’t get the message from his bosses at AP.
He isn’t supposed to say this until after they get Romney nominated. THEN they can attack him.
As for Romney, he enabled gay marriage in Massachusetts. And when he says he is pro life, he lies.
What he has shown is that he’ll do anything to get elected.
What was his great accomplishment? Saving the Salt Lake City Olympics. His stooges still boast about it at every opportunity. What they don’t mention is the $400 million federal subsidy Romney helped get.
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:49:53 AM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: SmokingJoe
Romney is going to get hammered by both the right(in the primaries) and the left(if he should win the primaries) over Romneycare.Not only that...but in a poll from several years back, moderates were 11% less likely than conservatives to vote for a Mormon prez. [That's where McCain especially surged ahead...he got the moderate vote]
To: Colofornian
It was health care that soured me on Romney. He insisted that the Massachusetts system was efficent and profitable and he wanted to impose something similar on a national level. Of course, the Massachusetts system is failing and costly.
What I really want is someone who is opposed to “reform” in any manner, save for tort reform and allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines. I don’t want any compromise or making nice with the socialists. That’s what
Romney, McCain and other Rinos want to do, and that is not acceptable to me. All that making nice is how we’ve ended up in the situation we are in.
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:51:56 AM PDT
by
fatnotlazy
(Never forget!)
To: Cicero
Conservatives only, thank you.
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:52:27 AM PDT
by
gathersnomoss
(General George Patton had it right.)
To: Colofornian
Definitely Romney has major problems with ObamaCare passing....
I wonder if he will try a Kerry...”I was for it before I was against it”
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posted on
03/27/2010 9:52:54 AM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(National Security begins at the Border)
To: circlecity
Romney is a phony, a McCain II. No we need a true believer, and I think we have to twist Ryan’s arm to get him to run. He is highly articulate, intelligent, and a very well studied policy expert. It will be very difficult from the MSM to characterize Ryan as a lightweight.
I live in the Milwaukee area and I believe I have a fundraiser coming up with Ryan and I will try to ask him to run.
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posted on
03/27/2010 10:03:01 AM PDT
by
grumpygresh
(Democrats delenda est)
To: Colofornian
I am surprised that AP wrote this. Their motives appear to be to diss the Republicans for being against health care. However, one would have to imagine that the AP would want Romney to be the Republican nominee given his track record.
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posted on
03/27/2010 10:03:27 AM PDT
by
mlocher
(USA is a sovereign nation)
To: Colofornian
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