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1 posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:04 PM PDT by conservativesister
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You were saying ...

I've searched FR, googled, and wicki-ed, the only thing I can find about removing a president is : ...

I will warn you, though... there are FReepers who have solutions to getting rid of the President -- other than Impeachment/Conviction and/or Elections.

I've read from some FReepers that all that is needed is a judge to issue an arrest warrant for Obama, and order a U.S. Marshal to execute the arrest warrant and we would see Obama being hauled out of the Oval Office in handcuffs on the evening news... doncha know... :-)

Also, another method I've seen FReepers posting about is that the U.S. Military can "oust" Obama simply by surrounding the White House with tanks and demanding that he leave, or they will blow him up and/or the White House and him in it. And so, that was another method suggested here on Free Republic.... :-)

And then, I've even seen other FReepers say that there is no problem removing Obama because he is not even really the President, since he wasn't born here. And since that's true (that he's not President, "really" and since he wasn't born here) -- you don't have to go through those Constitutional provisions -- since he isn't President in the first place. They would just send in an ordinary police officer to arrest him and be done with it, doncha know... LOL ...

Of course, there were those who said the Supreme Court could order a new election, since the last election was a fraud and that Obama wasn't qualified. So, all that is needed (or all that was needed) was for the Supreme Court to order that new national election.

Or a variation on that was that the Supreme Court could simply order him removed since he was never qualified and the next in line would take his place (or some variation of that).

I mean..., if you want to "go nuts" (and there are those who "go nuts" here on Free Republic) -- there are a whole bunch off ways to get rid of Obama and out of the Oval Office... doncha know... LOL ...

38 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Article 2, section 4 of the Constitution indicates reasons removal from office. "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Can "other high crimes" include his being a socialistic dipsh*t ???

40 posted on 03/25/2010 1:11:35 PM PDT by Lmo56
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I know there’s no way to win a veto proof majority in 2010, which is basically what you’d need to impeach + convict, so we may have to wait till 2012 so Americans can remove him.

But if the GOP manages to get a simple majority in both houses in 2010, he’ll virtually be a lame duck for two years.


42 posted on 03/25/2010 1:12:47 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Bribery - Rep. Darryl Issa is calling for a special investigator be appointed to uncover the WH bribery offer and subsequent cover up of an Obama Admin. job offer made directly to Rep. Sestack-PA if he’d drop out the PA Senate race against Senator Spector. Robert Gibbs has denied answering press questions more than 13 times about this issue, because it’s a felony to make the offer, know about the offer and fail to report it, and to know about the incident and lie about your knowledge. Either Sestack or the WH is lying. This is a “balck & white” issue. Both parties can NOT be telling the truth. Sestack vigorously stands by his claim he was directly offered an Obama job to drop out of his race.


44 posted on 03/25/2010 1:13:33 PM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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Bribery

Isn't that supposed to stop things like The Louisiana Purchase?

51 posted on 03/25/2010 1:16:17 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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1. Don’t put Orly Taitz (Clown, Dentist, Whackjob) on the case.


52 posted on 03/25/2010 1:16:58 PM PDT by humblegunner (*)
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This situation is widely misunderstood as it applies to Obama. If you have a candidate for President who gets the most electoral votes, he can be effectively certified as elected only if he is "eligible" to hold the office. If he isn't eligible, any certificate would simply be void ab initio. The candidate wouldn't be president no matter what the certificate said.

Obama was born in a hospital located in modern day Kenya. Whatever other arguments might be made, he did not become a citizen by right of birth. So it isn't possible for him to be eligible to hold the office of President.

The office is thus vacant at this time. The eligible person who got the most votes as Vice Present is the acting president until an eligible person is declared elected by Congress.

Point is, you can't impeach Obama because he doesn't hold the office.

Procedurally, probably the most effective way to attack the situation is by making a collateral attack on some action he takes purporting to act as President. For example, a Quo Warranto action might be commenced against Sonya Sotomayor, seeking to eject her from the Supreme Court on the grounds that to be lawfully appointed to the Court, a person must be appointed by the President.

You should be able to get that case to trial without having to contend with standing issues to sue the President or other procedural limitations on your ability to get a lawsuit at issue against the person who occupies the White House.

You would still need to have standing to raise the issue as to Sonya but it would seem that a litigant before the Court would be qualified. There is lots of law on cases where a litigant has standing to successfully attack the capacity of the Judge.

I suspect that any of these states suing to overturn the Health Care Act might well have original jurisdiction rights to initiate such a challenge before the Supreme Court--if not, at least in the District Court in DC.

You get a hearing on the merits of your claim; prove he was born in Kenya; and get an order kicking Sonya out with findings supporting the order.

You then take that order and start off attacking other action he may have taken--signing the Health Care Bill; issuing military orders; etc.

The moving trucks are not far behind.

59 posted on 03/25/2010 1:29:54 PM PDT by David (...)
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I thought 3M might have something like “Prez Away!”... but no...
;)


65 posted on 03/25/2010 1:37:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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a Dubai vacation


72 posted on 03/25/2010 1:46:10 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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The president is bound by every law that we are. If he has violated or violates any significant law he can be tried in the appropriate court, found guilty and sent to prison, just like anyone else.

It very hard to believe that barry is not guilty of many things. All we need to do is a little research to find how many: Smoking dope, selling dope to his friends, etc, etc, etc…


73 posted on 03/25/2010 1:51:20 PM PDT by no-llmd
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A few more Republicans in the House and Senate would be a start...


76 posted on 03/25/2010 1:52:47 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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Clinton was impeached. He wasn’t removed from office.
Step 2 never kicked in as the congress refused to vote for it.
The Dem majority would never let this fly.
We are in a position of trusting all the crooks to roll over on one of them. Don’t think it can happen.
Should, maybe but as far as could, no chance.


107 posted on 03/25/2010 3:38:36 PM PDT by captnemo1
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bump


115 posted on 03/25/2010 5:16:54 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off.)
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Want to remove Barry from office before 2012? Can't wait that long? Want put instant doubt/question/lack of credibility into ANYTHING he signs? Yes, including the health care crap? The issue of his being born a subject/citizen of a FOREIGN country needs to become a mainstream discussion.

After-all, how can a USURPER sign ANYTHING into law as POTUS?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!


http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

116 posted on 03/25/2010 5:17:10 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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You have the cops arrest him for forgery, perjury, and extortion.

See http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com


135 posted on 03/25/2010 6:56:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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And social security fraud (2-3 dozen different SS#’s). And probably campaign finance violations and tax evasion (if income on his 3 dozen or so social security numbers wasn’t reported and taxes paid).


137 posted on 03/25/2010 6:58:47 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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First we have to start WINNING elections. Maybe that it is something George W. Bush never quite figured out.


158 posted on 03/25/2010 7:52:39 PM PDT by AlanD
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You are correct that only Congress has the Constitutional authority to remove a sitting President. Congress can do that by Impeachment. But Congress cannot remove a usurper by impeachment.

The power or authority to remove an usurper from the White House, via Quo Warranto, was delegated by Congress to the District Court, Washington, D.C.

To sue the President of the United States via Quo Warranto one must have standing. But the thing about Quo Warranto is that the President must PROVE he/she is eligible to be President.


162 posted on 03/25/2010 8:18:44 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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Take this for what it’s worth, but I’ve got a strong gut feeling that Obama is going to exit the same way Nixon did.

Beats me what the exact scandal might be. There are so many possibilities, starting with his birth certificate. Now don’t flame me as a “birther,” I’m merely open to the possibility there may be something bogus about his citizenship status.

More than likely, Obama’s downfall will come over something we haven’t seen yet. I just hope to God it’s not an attack on this country.

Yes, a lot of Americans acted foolishly by giving power to Emperor Bozo the Usurper and his sycophants.

For my part, I’m tired of blaming the old wishy-washy GOP Congress or all the conservative purists who stayed home in 2006 and 2008.

As we gradually realize that we are in a Cold Civil War against the Left, conservatives need to overlook past differences and focus on where the real source of evil in our society lies.

Considering that the Emperor doesn’t seem to have any moral values other than love of himself, I thought it appropriate to get familiar with the concept of “imprecatory prayer.”

This is basically a passionate and sincere cry to the Lord to stop evil. It is a plea for stern Old Testament justice to be brought upon one’s persecutors.

Psalm 35 is a an excellent, if long, example. But in our Emperor’s case, one might consider simply extemporizing something like “Dear Lord, put a stop to this monster before he really starts hurting people.”

I’ve struggled with my Catholic faith for nearly 53 years, and one constant problem I have is this milquetoast hope that wrongdoers might have a change of heart if we all only prayed hard enough. Right, if we only prayed hard enough, Ahmedinutjob will stop calling for Israel to be wiped off the map.

I still go to mass and mumble the usual prayers for mercy. Then I add a few of my own — for justice.


177 posted on 03/25/2010 10:31:54 PM PDT by Colonel Blimp (Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo)
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Find his birth certificate? ;-)


195 posted on 03/26/2010 7:25:45 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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