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To: Hostage

Oh and by the way, I did not Opine the Constitution doesn’t work. Thanks for showing up and telling us all, like we are your children, the way it should be.

I imagine your attitude gets quite a bit of push back.

In terms of fair tax I was for it until I thought about it further and it would be a way for the government to bury their spending, so now I am not for it.

What I am for is making stakeholders out of everyone. Currently some 60% of America has no Federal Tax obligation and many times they get a check back from them(That’s us, the people who actually pay taxes and I pay more than most people make in a year).

If they were stakeholders and paying Fed Tax I might feel a little better this whole thing.


92 posted on 03/24/2010 9:17:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
I didn't opine that the Constitution doesn't work as you did.

And if you think that someone pointing that out to you is treating as a child, then that's YOUR thinking.

So far the thread has from you:

The Constitution doesn't work but you like it that way. Anyone that calls you on it is treating you as a child, oh excuse me, “telling us all, like we are your children”.

That's just your retort to having been be caught with the foolish ‘the Constitution doesn't work, I like it that way’ nonsense.

And as I have become a scholar on the FairTax, and was a Flat Taxer before, I have seen your type of response numerous times and have researched it and found to be a false fear. That's Ok, not everyone will be won over, especially as it takes time to set in, but there are on average 800 new members to AFFT every day and the movement is the largest fastest growing reform movement in the United States.

I am here not to persuade you or anyone else. I am here to broadcast alternatives, to let people know there are other options, legal options, and educate persons that want to know more. When I come across hypocrisy or cowardice, I call that person on it, not so much to generate ill-will but rather to educate readers as to losing attitudes and unsound responses.

Once a seed of education of alternatives is planted, people will remember it when the time is right, they will remember the unfounded groundless objections to the alternatives, they will want to look for leaders that can put an alternative plan into action.

So if you don't like being called on hypocrisy, then I suggest you read your posts before you post them. If you feel you are being treated as a child, then I would suggest you get treatment for your feelings because your feelings belong to you and only you.

But you will be called on hypocrisy and false arguments whether you like it or not, and it's not for your benefit, it's for the benefit of those that will look back and remember the alternatives and the hypocritical responses to the alternatives.

And the hypocrisy is this:

“The Constitution has been subverted and is being subverted, it is being broken. Let it stay that way because the alternative of calling the grassroots to a convention to repair it and make it stronger will only destroy it. I do not trust the grassroots any more than I can trust the members of Congress and their tyrannical leaders. Therefore, I conclude without listening to full arguments that this alternative is unwise because I fear and have fear of uncertainty just as I fear the certainty of the destruction and subversion I see before me”.

And next I suppose you are going to ‘feel’ that the subversion and destruction should be met with conventional methods of elections although information is being broadcast that elections may end in the United States.

What I am trying to broadcast is there is a fallback position, position that frightens Obama and his people, a grassroots convention, which they cannot intimidate or manipulate in a powerful fashion. They are not prepared for it and it would take years for them to position themselves to control its outcome.

As the destruction and subversion continue, at some point those that are conservative and understanding of the freedoms they are losing, will ask what can be done? And they will remember there were those posts about an alternative with links to more information, written by Freepers who legal scholars and who have worked directly for Supreme Court justices, who were spending time to educate and were quick to call out those who appeared smug, complacent and hypocritical.

94 posted on 03/24/2010 10:20:26 AM PDT by Hostage
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