[Charles Martel]

Unless the church expels them, the church doesn’t have much credibility on the issue.

I agree - the "self-excommunication" argument is hollow.

[Jim Noble]

Unless the church expels them, the church doesn’t have much credibility on the issue. I agree - the "self-excommunication" argument is hollow.

When my grandfather was excommunicated in 1919, the bishop called him out in church where he was sitting with his widowed mother, her only child.

Saying a politician has "excommunicated himself" when he receives communion from the hands of a bishop in communion with the See of Peter is just absurd.