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It's a Civil War: What We Do Now
Townhall.com ^ | March 23, 2010 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 03/23/2010 4:56:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: outofstyle

Yep, we need to demand representation for the majority of Americans, just as the left muscled its way in. Otherwise all will be lost.


141 posted on 03/23/2010 6:54:41 AM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: outofstyle
But by all means, take up your 9mm and rush into the breach. You will become just another "60 minutes" propaganda piece they can archive next to Ruby Ridge.

I'm not going rushing off anywhere with a 9mm. But I just don't think the civil disobedience tactic has any value to us.

As for Ruby Ridge, Well, sadly the cost of the learning lesson was paid in blood, but I do think it did open a lot of eyes to the nature of the beast.

142 posted on 03/23/2010 6:59:12 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: livius; Jack Black

“if we let our country slip away, it won’t matter whether we legalize everybody or nobody. “

If we legalize everybody, our country has slipped away.


143 posted on 03/23/2010 6:59:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: panthermom

“I think they, the Dems, are just gonna push and push, yes they are that arrogant!”

AND that evil. If amnesty with chain migration passes, America is finished!


144 posted on 03/23/2010 7:01:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Kaslin

Until we stop allowing corporations to contribute to political campaigns then write the laws to be enacted by congress, this repression will only get worse.

The downfall of this country can be pinpointed to the moment the supreme court said a corporation has the same rights as the individual. That was the death knell for individual rights and the power of the citizen over his government.

It has ushered in the era of global socialism, and we are only just beginning to feel and see its destructive effects.

Congress has their own jets to fly to ‘economic summits’ with global corporations,to get their legislative agendas.

That is what has to be stopped. It is the battle that will win the civil war that is now brewing in this country.


145 posted on 03/23/2010 7:04:10 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: stephenjohnbanker

If amnesty goes through, I really don’t know what I will do. I am at my breaking point. My quality of life has gone down so fast in the last 2 yrs. that I can barely catch my breath.


146 posted on 03/23/2010 7:06:38 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: central_va

Ditto !


147 posted on 03/23/2010 7:07:08 AM PDT by Renegade ("Bring it on while I still don't need glasses to shoot your eye out ")
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To: papertyger

I think that the history of the last half century belies your comment. The Soviet Union and the Warsaw bloc collapsed without a single shot being fired, the Marco’s in the Phillipines, the Duvaleigh (sp?)’s in Haiti, the Orange revolution, the Green revolution, need I name more?

I don’t disagree with you, but I don’t think that we face an armed insurrection in the US any time soon, thank God. What the Dems face is a whoopin at the ballot box. That is precisely because the Dems used their power and they have over-reached.


148 posted on 03/23/2010 7:11:22 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: Kaslin

As a rule, can’t stand Prager.

But this is good.


149 posted on 03/23/2010 7:12:39 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Travis McGee

Funny thing...

I was talking to my Dad yesterday...I asked him what he thought about when, if the Federal government starts enforcing an un-Constitutional law, and begins to apply the fees, fines, and eventual detainment/encarceration aspect of this bill...

Does that warrant the use of deadly force (per the laws of our state) in resisting that un-Constitutional enforcement of that illegal law???

I’ll let y’all guess the conclusion we came up with...You may actually be surprised...

Some may not...


150 posted on 03/23/2010 7:12:46 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Williams
Until we are militant about representation in the media and education on all levels, this will continue downhill.

That is a fact most of the RINOS don't understand. Our schools are run by the NEA, which is an arm of the democrap party.

151 posted on 03/23/2010 7:15:11 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (All comments about the current communist congress are now self censored.)
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To: Kaslin

BTTT

thanks Kaslin


152 posted on 03/23/2010 7:22:32 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: outofstyle
Let's see... We either take your path... Which incidentally is the same path that got us HERE in the first place.

Or we take Patrick Henry's example?

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

So... Are you supine? Or will you stand on your feet and FIGHT back when the call comes?

153 posted on 03/23/2010 7:23:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: papertyger
I share your anger at what is going on. You can say things like "only if we let them." But at this point, the left would like nothing better than a few "right wing nuts" to commit violence. In fact, if it doesn't happen they will try and fabricate it. The public will not go for that now. When the food shortages come, that will be a different story.

Not that any of us should be fearful, but we all do know that our tyrannical government is using tax dollars to pay a bunch of slugs to monitor "right wing" web sites; right?

Name ten

Indian Independence, Apartheid, Woman's suffrage England, Woman's suffrage US, US Civil rights movement, US surrender in Vietnam, Lech Walesa's Solidarity in Poland, The Demise of the Argentina dictatorship of the 1970's and 80's, The Demise of the Marcos dictatorship in the Philippians, Suharto in Indonesia.

154 posted on 03/23/2010 7:25:12 AM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: Jack Black
I don't think we'll have 50 states under our current constitution in another generation. Not sure what it will look like, but the USA will no longer be united.


155 posted on 03/23/2010 7:35:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: stevie_d_64

No comment. I’m just an observer and writer.


156 posted on 03/23/2010 7:35:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: MrB
The “Bowman Strategy” would be to take out the agent, then go after who sent him. I don’t think this is a good tactic, as you’d be engaging the agents on their timing and with their tactics and backup.

I completely agree with your assessment, except who sent the agent is irrelevant. Without willing agents, tyrants are impotent. Bleeding and dying is no way to make a living.

I think a civil society would be best served by citizens constantly at the ready to interdict the agent's exercise of power... Think of the proverbial palestinian gunman knocking over a grocery store, only to be shot down by eight israeli housewives.

157 posted on 03/23/2010 7:35:45 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Dead Corpse
So... Are you supine? Or will you stand on your feet and FIGHT back when the call comes?

Big talk. We could only muster 50,000 people to stand around and shout in DC on Saturday. I tried to get others to join me but you know, they lived too far away, the kids got a soccer game etc. In November we could only get 10,000 because God forbid somebody misses a days wages for the government to tax. This is the reality right now. You think your going to get a critical mass of people to take up arms at this point? If you do, you are nuts. People will rise up that way when they are going hungry, not before. I have been pushing hard in this struggle. I have three weeks vacation scheduled in the lead up to the November elections in order to work against the tyrants. And yea when the call comes I'll be there. But I'm not following a hot head who is all talk.

158 posted on 03/23/2010 7:36:22 AM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: papertyger

That is another thing about thugs, besides my Hayek reference above, that the worst of the worst end up as the enforcers -

thugs are cowards.

Enough of them get the proverbial punch in the nose,
others will think twice about “taking up the whip”.


159 posted on 03/23/2010 7:42:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: outofstyle
Pretty damn powerful tactic when you consider the destruction of our culture it has wrought.

Do you even know why it worked?

You're confusing leaves wiggling on trees as the cause of wind!

160 posted on 03/23/2010 7:43:27 AM PDT by papertyger
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