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To: ThomasSawyer

Again, you show you simply don’t understand how it works.

There is a reason more reps were opposed to this bill than supported it.

In terms of life, the conservatives in this denomination have worked for 2 decades to bring our statement on abortion around. It was at one time during the heyday of theological liberalism a pro-abortion position. Each quadrennium since it has been gradually crafted in the direction of a pro-life, rape/incest/life of mother position. We have just about succeeded, and with another 2 quadrennia we’ll be there.

But, you don’t understand how it works and what we’ve fought for.

I will admit, though, that it’s a lot easier to quit than to fight.


45 posted on 03/22/2010 9:56:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

We have had conversations along this line before and I have very much appreciated your insight. And you’ve assured me that there is a movement within the church leadership to move towards more conservative principles. I thought that was true until this. Between this and the UMC push for amnesty for illegals, all I see is a church leadership riddled with leftist, social justice types who think America is the worst country on earth and all our institutions should be dismantled.

Maybe because my minister has been a little more open about his personal views, I am more disillusioned. Leaving isn’t easy for me. Truly, it is not. But I keep coming back to the question of when does my prayers, my presence, my gifts and my service condone these positions? Where is the line? I can’t condone the UMC’s position on health care reform, global warming or amnesty for illegals. I just can’t. The UMC leadership is somewhat akin to Congress - “you can protest all you want, we’re still going to do what we think is best. The devil with foundational principles - we’re going to do what we’re going to do.”

I feel like Congress has just raped and pillaged this country. And now, I can’t even find solace in my church because the UMC condoned what Congress has just done.


49 posted on 03/23/2010 6:11:56 AM PDT by iceskater (The "public option" in government run health care means no option at all.)
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