[hirn_man]

They still gotta go.
Nancy Pelosi counted up the votes and let some of em vote no.
If they had been needed, they would of flipped to yes.

No democrat can get a pass on this regardless of their vote.

[parthian shot]

Concerning Shuler, his constituents ask him to vote no, he voted no. I know that he had a great amount of pressure on him from party leaders, but he stood his ground. I am just as angry as you, or more so about this piece of garbage legislation! However, just to stereotype everyman is just wrong! You will probably try to put me into a category of people you dislike, because I disagree with you.

I was raised to take a man at his word until he proved himself to be untrustworthy because of a lie. Until that time, I was taught to stand with men with like morals and principles until the end. Shuler may at sometime prove me wrong, then I will owe you an apology. Right now, I choose to stand with him.