[okie01]

That tells me they are still short.

Is there any reason why Stupak or any of his crowd should trust Obama's word on anything?

If they are indeed serious on the abortion issue, Stupak et al will not seek cover behind a spurious (and likely temporary) executive order issued by the Liar-in-Chief.

[LS]

Ultimately Stupak and his buds are Democrats. It's one thing for Choice or some of the others to announce now . . . IF they know that Stupak will cave.

But if Stupak and his seven hold and actually defeat this bill, then I will have to revise my maxim that there is no such thing as a "moderate" or "good" Democrat.