[Conservative Coulter Fan]

Answer: yes, it goes to the very core of Socialism. It is the very antithesis of liberty and limited government, but obviously you have corrupted ideals and notions that lead you to advocate these very ideals. I'll give you an example, the Department of Education. Now, common thinking today would reject that this is a communist inception, but if you go back to the early 20th century...historically speaking, it was in the platform of the Communist Party and it became a reality in 1979.

Also, this tactic of of brushing off discussion of these topics is easy, and almost always causes people like you to mock these arguments, regardless of the truth, and then move on the idea of popularity. Perhaps the fact that you believe socialism is popular is exactly why the founders of this country rejected democracy and opted to form a republic. Needless to say, it is hard to compete with what government-run schools are doing to entire generations of kids, what the Ward Churchills on are doing throughout campuses across the country, and what a leftist news media are doing to "educate, inform, and delude."

[Will88]

Answer: yes, it goes to the very core of Socialism. It is the very antithesis of liberty and limited government, but obviously you have corrupted ideals and notions that lead you to advocate these very ideals.

Lol, as I've said, you live in a fantasy world that will never be. I don't agree with all the social programs we have, and certainly oppose Obamacare and further expansions of those programs. But anyone with a modicum of common sense should try to envision what sort of nation we'd have with no social safety net, and no system that provided an assured, but modest retirement for all people who've worked and contributed to a system.

Your fantasy world would be one of chaos and anarchy, with millions of elderly with no means of support, and millions of others who'd become financially destitute for various reasons. Every affluent family would need 17' walls around their houses as they have in San Salvador and other societies where the rule of law is touch and go.

And, believe me, I don't consider you anyone capable of deciding whether anyone else's ideals are corrupt or uncorrupted. The fantasy worlds of the left and the right can be equally dangerous if too many people reside in either one.

And much of your post is a bunch of straw man arguments which have nothing to do with what I have said, or what I believe. "Socialism is popular, Ward Churchill, a leftist news media." That's just your throw-ins and has nothing to do with me or anything I believe, and little to do with whether we should have a safety net or mandatory retirement income system.

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production, and there is no private property. That is at the core of socialism, and that the actual definition of socialism. I think our government programs have already gone too far, but I also don't pretend that we are on the verge of full blown socialism.