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To: John-Irish

Hate to break it to you. But “socialized” health care
may be a nightmare for someone who has a decent private insurance. (bevore you get me wrong i have a private one and enjoy the benfits from having this “and i live in a country which has so called “socialized health care”).
But for someone who may could not afford any kind of
generall healthh care at all it´s definitelly an improvement.
The difference here is if you work you will have an insurance
no matter what you finally earn. But fact is you and your kids (especially the kids “they are the only ones
“we” would really protect and where we would really use tax money
to help them if their parrents turn out as total losers.
But for the rest. You may have a low job but you can be shure that you are able to get any kind of pills or medicine
available and given to you if it´s nessersary “for free” if you can´t afford it with your pay check. Do you will get the same treatment like me? (Well just no! i get “better” treatment because i pay more. Fair? NO! but this is how live is. So socialized medicine does not mean we all pay the same or even share the same system or more important are treatened equal? (because believe me it´s not this way).
But at least it ensuhres that every one has some kind of acess (even it´s not serious) to a fair share of medical treatment.


36 posted on 03/20/2010 5:08:12 PM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

Darkside, you’ve been getting your tail kicked here on this issue. Quit while you’re ahead. I’ve lived all my life in America and have NEVER been without health coverage, no matter how much I earned. And no one in America has ever been refused treatment. Don’t believe me? Ask Mexicans. America is their health-care provider. I’ve been in a union and non-union and have had and have employer provided health care of which I pay a per centage. There is no better health care system in all the world like Americas. Deal with it.


40 posted on 03/20/2010 6:52:32 PM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: darkside321

You are proposing just status quo here. We have health care welfare (Medicaid, SCHIP, public clinics, emergency room treatment, and other programs) for those who cannot obtain insurance or pay for health care services. I would like to see substantial reform of health care welfare to focus on the most needy. I also want co pays and higher taxes on the lower classes to connect those receiving welfare with the costs.

The Democrats are proposing something very different. The Democrats want to impose their view of health insurance on everyone. They want to impose health care rights and price controls. They want to make the most productive individuals pay for the health care of the masses. The Democrat plans will simultaenouse increase demand and decrease supply leading to rationing of limited services.


41 posted on 03/20/2010 7:10:07 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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