[randita]

“He tells me with certainty that they have plenty of votes and that some yes votes will be allowed to vote no if they choose for their protection. He says that everyone’s internal polling has been much better than expected. He says at this point that last sticking point is whether to give Stupak a separate vote, which Pelosi is considering.”

Plenty of votes does not square with those who are keeping close tallies. Those tallies show the publicly stated no votes are only one or two shy of 216. If that's how it stays, then the yes votes could only be a few more than 216. That's not "plenty". But maybe those who have said they're voting no are lying just to get people to stop calling their offices so that tally could be inaccurate.

Most of the members in Stupak's coalition have not declared either way.

It is a risky maneuver to give Stupak a separate vote, because if enough Republicans vote "present", that vote would fail and what would that gain Stupak and his gang if they turn around and then vote FOR the Senate bill? It would just demonstrate that they don't really have principles, they just want to appear as if they have them.

There is a lot of misinformation and confusion out there. Much of it makes no sense whatever.

[thouworm]

“There is a lot of misinformation and confusion out there. Much of it makes no sense whatever. “

I agree...and add “disinformation” to the towering pile of babble.

Virtually nothing trustworthy or useful.