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To: metmom; valkyry1
When it’s all said and done, evos and science offer nothing of lasting value to life or the world or the universe

To do otherwise is to claim that you know what this world is all about.

Science is not about making nice stories that make one feel good. Science makes working models. And this world is not really that nice outside the safe confines of the artificial environment we live in.

Everything is just the result of chance and accident, our thoughts and emotions nothing more than a bunch of chemical reactions

I don't anyone can say that for certain. But we also can't say for certain what is this a result of and for what purpose if any.

And yet they deride and ridicule believers, which is ludicrous, as all they have to say amounts to nothing in the long run. So their derision and mockery is as meaningless as their existence.

No one ridicules believers. However, they paint themselves into a corner when they make statements of faith as if they were statements of fact.

842 posted on 04/01/2010 7:55:38 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50
Science is not about making nice stories that make one feel good.

Sure it is. It's about origins and evolution and global warming and green this and that and all kinds of other things that make people feel like they don't need God any more and can do away with Him because they found what they think are all the answers.

No one ridicules believers.

Of course they do, especially when they equate faith in God with pink unicorns on Jupiter.

845 posted on 04/01/2010 8:24:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: kosta50; metmom; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Quix; spunkets; wmfights; P-Marlowe; xzins; MHGinTN; ...

For someone who has referred to other posters in disparaging terms, calling one, for instance, “God’s press secretary” and likening their beliefs to “pink unicorns on Jupiter”, you are displaying remarkable sensitivity to a simple observation. That observation being that you spend a great deal of time and effort to refute a position which you claim is self-evidently fantasy.

I bear no personal animosity to you, even if you try (however ineffectively) to make fun of me. I expressed the belief that God would not wish the loss of any souls, yours included. Your response was scornful and called me “self-righteous.” (For what it’s worth, I find myself to be a horribly flawed and corrupt individual, a view I have come to only after fully realizing the Truth of salvation in Y’Shua. ..... I think it was Billy Graham who once said, “The closer you come to the light, the dirtier you realize you are.”)

Bottom line - In matters of faith it is particularly difficult to separate the belief from the believer. I think that metmom said something like that in a previous post, linking her life and belief to the reality of God.

No one is expecting a sudden recantation or conversion through this discussion. But as I look back at my own life, I think now of things people said to me many years ago, which “fell into place” only after time and life had softened me up enough to accept the Truth.

I wish you well in your quest, whatever you perceive it to be, and I pray that God will draw you closer to Himself over time - that the intuitive side of your intellect will show you the way home.

Once you get there, you’ll find you have a lot more friends than you ever thought you had, and you will find a peace that passes all understanding.

Over and out - for now.


848 posted on 04/01/2010 8:47:51 PM PDT by shibumi (FReepMail me to get on the "Hippo Attack" ping list!)
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To: kosta50; metmom

//Science is not about making nice stories that make one feel good//

Evolutionary beliefs are not science, yet the evolutionist feels good in them.


850 posted on 04/02/2010 1:31:21 AM PDT by valkyry1
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