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To: goodusername; allmendream
I’ve also never seen scientists such as Francis Collins, Keith Miller, or Kenneth Miller, etc referred to as “Creationists”, even though they are Christians. And in fact those scientists often rail against both Creationism and ID.

Which means nothing. Evos call themselves Christians and rail against a creationism without specifying the variety they are referring to.

Scientists don't have a monopoly on defining terms like creationist and creationism.

They don't have a corner on the definition market for every aspect of life simply because they are scientists. That falls outside the realm of scientific endeavor and cannot be addressed in a scientific manner.

pwnd nothing.

258 posted on 03/24/2010 3:03:26 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Main Entry: cre·a·tion·ism Pronunciation: \-shə-ˌni-zəm\ Function: noun Date: 1880 : a doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by God out of nothing and usually in the way described in Genesis — compare evolution 4b — cre·a·tion·ist \-shə-nist\ noun or adjective PWNED AGAIN!!!
259 posted on 03/24/2010 3:06:09 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: metmom; allmendream

“Which means nothing. Evos call themselves Christians and rail against a creationism without specifying the variety they are referring to.”

—The point of my post was to point out how the word is used by virtually all creationists and evolutionists alike - which in a discussion of the meaning of a term and how it’s to be understood - is everything.

“Scientists don’t have a monopoly on defining terms like creationist and creationism.
They don’t have a corner on the definition market for every aspect of life simply because they are scientists. That falls outside the realm of scientific endeavor and cannot be addressed in a scientific manner.”

—No one’s claiming that scientists get to define creationist or creationism. As I said in my previous post, I’m using the term the same way as every Creationist organization I can find. Every Creationist organization I know of uses the term to mean one who believes God created life AND is opposed to evolution.


293 posted on 03/24/2010 4:36:54 PM PDT by goodusername
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