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To: allmendream; shibumi; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Quix; metmom; kosta50
...rather than the self serving definition that FR creationists have attempted

Oh. And who would those people be? Hmmmm?

As to why Franklin and Jefferson allegedly denied the divinity of Christ, perhaps they — as highly educated and cultivated men — had read Newton, who also denied the divinity of Christ. Since we can't interview these people to find out, we can only speculate about such matters.

What we don't have to speculate about is what Jefferson (with a background assist from Franklin) actually wrote in the DoI, in plain language with clear meanings.

235 posted on 03/24/2010 12:17:08 PM PDT by betty boop (Moral law is not rooted in factual laws of nature; they only tell us what happens, not what ought to)
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To: betty boop
Who, why you and metmom of course. Both of you have invented your own self serving definition and feigned ignorance of the accepted definition I provided and that aligns with what the vast majority of people mean when they say “creationist”.

And to say that Jefferson was a creationist and that his Declaration of Independence is the product of creationism is to deny reality.

Would you characterize Jefferson writing miracles OUT of the Bible as a Creationist or anti-Creationist endeavor?

If Jefferson wouldn't accept miracles in the New Testament, what makes you presume that he would be any more accepting of miraculous explanation instead of science in the book of Genesis?

That this is the only example of something of use that creationism has derived that FR creationists can come up with does more to support my point than anything else I could say on the subject.

I guess there are few flights of fancy so unreasonable and so contrary to facts that creationists wont engage in it. But to try to claim as their own a man who obviously rejected the notion of miraculous intervention!

What a farce. What ignorant and unsupportable twaddle. About the level of ‘scholarship’ one can expect from creationists however.

242 posted on 03/24/2010 1:21:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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