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To: LeGrande
Creation - the act of instituting a beginning, or more spefically, the origin of being. Your questions do not deal with creation. You would do well to understand what subject you broach. There are three basic views of Origin of the Universe - which is the subject which most philosophers and scientists (cosmologists) reference when they discuss 'creation'. These three views are creatio ex nihilo, creatio ex deo, and creatio ex materia. I will give you a brief overview. Creatio ex materia generally refers to the Pantheists veiw of creation from matter which they say has always existed in the universe. Creatio ex deo is the claim that everything in the universe arose from, or "Out of God" (in other words the universe is God). Creatio ex nihilo is the cosmological view that a Transendent God created out of nothing, the universe.

Materialists, atheists, and darwinists generally refuse to deal with creation at all as it is it is often conjoined by materialism and pantheism, thus it generally is asserted by the materialist that it can be called, creatio ex materia. This requires the materialist to to 'redefine' the term creation to not hold to it original meaning of 'coming into being', but they have adopted the exchange of the term 'formation' for creation. This seems to be the place which you find yourself.

For myself I prefer to approach the subject by means of actual terms of meaning and with the use of science, logic, reason, and rational thought. Atheist materialists often attempt to champion those tools of logic, reason, science, and rational thought. If you are agreed let us begin to discuss 'the subject of creation' which you brought up.

100 posted on 03/23/2010 12:45:37 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter
There are three basic views of Origin of the Universe - which is the subject which most philosophers and scientists (cosmologists) reference when they discuss 'creation'. These three views are creatio ex nihilo, creatio ex deo, and creatio ex materia.

Do you agree with these definitions? How do you define Creationism?

102 posted on 03/23/2010 1:25:03 PM PDT by LeGrande (The government wants to make a new Government program (Health Care) to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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