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To: Longbow1969

So all of the whip counts we have seen are wrong. All the Republicans are lying. Obama basically cancelled his vacation with kids for some serious arm twisting. The fact that of the 37 Democrats we need 36 are pretty damn firm NO, with a couple dozen left out there to get ONE vote from. All of the left leaning MSMers are in on this deception doing this just to make the defeat even more soul crushing. No your logic sounds more rational to me. /sarc


129 posted on 03/18/2010 4:56:07 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: pburgh01

“So all of the whip counts we have seen are wrong. All the Republicans are lying. Obama basically cancelled his vacation with kids for some serious arm twisting. The fact that of the 37 Democrats we need 36 are pretty damn firm NO, with a couple dozen left out there to get ONE vote from. All of the left leaning MSMers are in on this deception doing this just to make the defeat even more soul crushing. No your logic sounds more rational to me. /sarc”

Wanna bet on it?

You know, I’m not saying Obama and the Dem’s don’t have to work for it. Many things in life are routine and predictable but still require an enormous amount of effort.

When Obama was elected President with these huge Democratic majorities and HCR as his number one priority, there was simply no way to stop it forever.

Pelosi will have the votes. Period. Not saying HCR can’t get gummed up again in the Senate during reconciliation. That could happen, though I think if it does we still get stuck with the old Senate bill as law.

One way or the other, and in the face of public opposition, we are going to get health care reform. That’s the result of the American people voting for socialists.


164 posted on 03/18/2010 5:13:38 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: pburgh01

I have to agree. Mostly because I really pray that you are right. But also because IF SHE HAD THE VOTES THEY WOULD HAVE VOTED BY NOW. 72 hour rule, CBO report or no, Pelosi would have waded though a million cubic yards of poop to get to her gavel and call that vote. She cannot risk someone flipping or God dropping a tree limb on someone once she hits the magic number. It makes no sense to me that if she had the numbers now that the vote would be over 48 hours away.


182 posted on 03/18/2010 5:25:25 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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