Posted on 03/18/2010 11:47:32 AM PDT by Talisker
“Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person’s will to benefit another”
You know, if this is all it required to violate the 13th, the income tax would be illegal. You’re going too far.
“No one makes us work as hard as we do to pay the tax rate we do—or even any taxes at all.”
I suppose we could all go live in the mountains, off the fat of the land. But in modern civilization, having an income is as close to necessary as any mode of living can possibly be. It’s not a matter of choice.
“What do you respond when the lib says ‘But we provide free legal services.’ ?? (Public defenders)”
That’s easy for me to answer. I don’t think that ever should have been considered a right (we got along fine for a LONG time without it). One more crappy public service we don’t need. Legal defense funds and other charities could handle it at least as well.
Individuals pay all taxes that exist. directly or indirectly. Not all taxes are payroll based. We have sales taxes, excise taxes and the like.
That was Reynolds vs United States.
“But we provide free legal services
Those services arguably are to protect rights codified in the Constitution (trial by jury etc.). Admittedly, such services have been extended to domains unrelated to the Constitution such as suing state Medicaid programs for coverage policies/decisions. But at least some such services are consistent with the SC’s finding that indigent clients are entitled to free counsel on grounds that without it, their right to a trial by jury is meaningless.
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