Posted on 03/17/2010 5:43:59 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
It never ceased to amaze what the ‘po folk’ were driving.
When I see people dropping off their kids for "free breakfast" while driving new Mercedes and SUVs it does kinda irritate the crap out of me.
Kinda ! I see bright red every time and have to bite my tongue to keep from calling them out. "Hey you f'n parasite !"
Some people have no shame, and no pride either.
Are savings a right?
Can you help me understand? We’re you told you could not withdraw any money no matter what until you recieved those letters and such? Or, were you told that you would have to pay a penalty to withdraw funds without them?
Think of savings as being private property. Do you have the right to own private property?
Why don’t they have drug tests for food stamps?
Yup, just like your property. One could argue that savings and property are one and the same. If you can lay claim to my savings before giving me aide, then why can you not demand I sell my property before giving aide?
Meanwhile, those who foolishly spend every dime they have, get immediate aide. Does the parable of the Industrious Ant and the Grasshopper ring any bells?
No problem - I understand what you mean. My question goes to why someone would believe that their savings shouldn’t be utilized first before any type of assistance kicks in. While I disagree with the statement they are making, I agree with the logic. Maybe I misunderstood what was being suggested by the comment.
These idiots don’t understand that working people like myself who refuse to take food stamps are the only thing that keeps the system alive. Once that work ethic goes away culturally, the system will collapse.
What would you propose?
Lose your house, starve to death and try not to drop dead anywhere where your corpse will create a stink?
Consider, some people go to college, get a degree and over a lifetime acquire experiences that makes them valuable. They buy a nice home, drive a nice car and have manageable debt. Making 6 figures, they pay ~$30K/yr in taxes.
Now, their company outsources their job to India; or the company doesn’t make the profit that was hoped for, so the company lays off 1,200 employees. Through no fault of their own, they now have no income.
Are you better off paying a small sum to help them survive until they can find another job; or are you better off watching them lose everythign they own?
In places like Detroit; where unemployment is hitting 15%; can you imagine 15% of the houses in your community being foreclosed? What would that do to your property values? Those houses sit empty, the banks are stuck with the debts, and the houses eventually fall apart. Talk about economic devastation.
What do you propose?
In Minnesota, welfare recipients are allowed to keep some private property (not very much although I can't give you the exact number) and still draw aid. I'm not sure the rationale. Perhaps it has something to do with trying to eventually get off the aid, I don't know. It is very difficult for people on assistance to get off of it but some do. This is mostly due to the disincentives in the law.
i was told that i could not withdraw the money until i could show hardship via letters from creditors etc saying we were in default....the only other way i could get the money was to quit my job....
For the life of me I can't find "save me money" or "stabilize food prices" as an enumerated power of Congress anywhere in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution.
Can you point them out to me? I must have an outdated copy.
Thanks in advance for all your assistance.
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The feds actually made an effort with some things to maintain at least a veneer of State control. And while I agree it is not authorized as such, it is quite legal as a State and county activity.
But, as it were, it is just the tip of the iceberg, compared to the vast, albeit unconstitutional, federal involvement in agriculture and agribusiness. Which I might add, is so huge, that food stamps are piddly indeed. The scale of American agribusiness is paralleled only by our military industrial complex. Both of which are *everywhere* in the US. Truly amazing.
The principles of what I said, however, still apply at the State and county level, in that most of the States have an overabundance of food which puts a strain on their resources as well.
End it. End it now.
No asset test currently in WA State (The 2008 farm Bill/Act actually stipulated that asset tests were to end when considering SNAP eligibility in all states).
The way to do that is with a constitutional convention, which I have been advocating for some time, now. However, once it is done, food stamps and other “relief” will likely revert to State control. Looking considerably different than they did before the Great Depression, but still there.
I would propose creativity, flexibility, hard work and self-reliance. It’s the American way. Also, I would recommend throwing out all liberals from positions of authority, power or influence where ever possible.
All of these are great qualities to have, no question. However, none of these will put food in the fridge, pay utilties or put gas in the car so a person can drive to an interview.
Just think, you go to work one day and without warning, without cause and due to no lack of action on your part you are sent to a conference room where you see tens, hundreds or even thousands of your fellow employees all nervously walking around. You sit, the lights dim and a Sr. Executive tells you that you are now all unemployed, that you will get your last severance check on Friday, and that this action was taken for the 'best interests' of the company. "Thank you".
Maybe you just made a down payment on a new car, after all, things were going so well and the old car was getting undependable. You've been with the company 'x' years, and got a good raise. Why things were looking so good! Maybe you just bought a home, got married and planned to settle down and sink roots in your community. Maybe your wife just got out of the hosptial with huge medical bills. Maybe your wife came home crying last week because she had lost her job and you don't know how you will pay your mortgage without her income.
Unemployment Insurance when done correctly, provides you enough to survive. If you scrimp you can pay your utilities and eat. But there is no way you can pay utilities, buy food, pay your mortgage (or rent), make a car payment and go on a year long vacation.
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