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To: wolfcreek
Going over to the dark side is a bit strong. They are just naive is all.

They see suffering and poverty and families split, and they want to do something about it. And that's all very laudable - their humanity does them honor. Unfortunately, this is not the right way to go about it.

Making 12 million illegal aliens legal, just like that, may very well normalise the situation, but it also makes a mockery of the concept of American citizenship. It stops being something that those who went before strived for, fought for, sacrificed for, and becomes the equivalent of membership of a "diners club".

Secondly, its a slap in the face to all the many LEGAL immigrants who have had to wait, and pay and suffer the tortous nuances of the US immigration service. Why did they bother?

And its very bad for the judicial system, because it sends the clear message that these immigration laws, passed by Congress, are effectively "optional". Now, if laws are optional, expect more of them to be broken.

12 posted on 03/17/2010 5:45:02 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
The Progressives have hijacked many of these organizations for their own purposes. Some of them were Leftist orgs from the get-go. (such as La Raza, LULAC, CAP, etc.) They are all funded by the usual foundations. Ford/Rockefeller/Carnegie/Clinton/Soros/etc.

This has been going on for a century or more. *Naive* doesn't apply any longer. They know what they are doing and with whom they are involved.

Otherwise, you are entirely correct.

16 posted on 03/17/2010 5:54:32 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Vanders9
I think it is worse than being naive. I have had lots of dealings with these people. At the basis of their thinking is the vile assumption that the illegals are more important than American citizens, that American citizens should pay to redress the inequality these people experience in their home countries, and that our ability to absorb them is limitless because we are a relatively wealthy country. The first reason is the one that bugs me the most, because of their inherent disloyalty to -- and in some cases, dislike of -- their fellow American citizens. To me, it is scandalous, and probably treasonous, to make such assumptions, and the fact that these beliefs are shared by many in Congress is just mind-blowing.
18 posted on 03/17/2010 5:59:58 AM PDT by La Lydia
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