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1 posted on 03/16/2010 4:47:33 PM PDT by Kaslin
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I certainly hope the Demonrats execute themselves.


2 posted on 03/16/2010 4:50:22 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Kaslin
They can "deem" that the sky is green and water is not wet.

We will demand they obey Article One Section Seven.

Or they may discover why the 2nd Amdendment was written.


3 posted on 03/16/2010 4:50:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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Why does this whole mess remind me of the fall of the Roman Empire? If they can “deem” things, can they deem the big O to be our dictator for life?


5 posted on 03/16/2010 4:54:43 PM PDT by GrannyAnn
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The United States Constitution is officialy dead, executed by self-serving, Machiavellian congressional Democrats.

We can now expect the annihilation of the Bill of Rights as America slides ever farther downward to Third World status; and as we, the world’s model for all systems of representative democracy, cover ourselves in the foul slime of corruption, can the rest of the planet be far behind?

Light years beyond shameful.


13 posted on 03/16/2010 5:01:14 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Kaslin
I deem the democrats unfit for office. Furthermore, I deem that they all resigned, effective immediately.
14 posted on 03/16/2010 5:04:47 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Kaslin

Better watch the other hand. This sounds like smoke and mirrors to me. I trust none of them.


15 posted on 03/16/2010 5:08:12 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Kaslin
If this bill becomes law individual rights, granted by our Creator, are gone and collective rights given by the government will be the law of the land. The Republic will be no more.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


17 posted on 03/16/2010 5:18:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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Here’s some Code: ”For only the second time in American history, I have given out the Capitol Hill Switchboard number, and I’m urging everybody to call and ramp it up, ratchet up the pressure.” • Call the Capitol Switchboard: 877-762-8762 or 202-224-3121 • Code Red: Click Here for List of Targeted Congressmen
18 posted on 03/16/2010 5:21:37 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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“Using a parliamentary trick ironically known as the “self-executing rule,” Democrats plan on passing their massive health bill without voting.”

That’s okay. We’ll use a firing squad without sighting in the rifles.


19 posted on 03/16/2010 5:31:39 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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Where is Jimmy Carter when ya need him... he’s all about voting.

How about Al Gore he likes to count as well.

But if no one casts a vote at all... must be fair in their world.

Un F’n Believable

TT


21 posted on 03/16/2010 6:05:22 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Parse every sentence uttered by a politician)
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They deem they don't need votes.
So don't give them any votes... in November.
26 posted on 03/16/2010 10:09:44 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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Bill O'Reilly said tonight that if they do this they will see an outpouring of rage from the American people like they have never seen before.
27 posted on 03/17/2010 12:31:20 AM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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