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To: jamese777

I read both your links. Interesting that the COLB that Obama has remarked on, that was posted by Fact Check is fake, and Fukino says he is a Natural Born Citizen, yet the Insightful director of the Health department of Hawaii Ms. Chioumi Fukino has only provided a cryptic statement, that there is a document on file, according to Hawaiian rules and regulations, however she consistently refused to provide a clear answer, as to what document is there, is it a 338-5 document supplied by a parent only without any corroborating evidence, is it a 338-17 document given to a foreign born child of a Hawaiian resident, is it an amended birth certificate, given upon Mr. Obama’s adoption by his Indonesian step father and showing him as a citizen of Indonesia?


As for the rest, I clearly stated it was a piece of informtion I found interesting. I do not ask or expect you to comment on it if you don’t want to...no problem.

to continue:
In the original statement, Fukino says that she has personally seen the original birth certificate. OK, lets’ take her at her word. Hawaii has the original document.

Now, watch the language Fukino uses in her latest declaration — “I…have seen the original vital records maintained on file…”

Those are two completely different statements. In the first, she is describing a document — a piece of paper. In the second she is describing an electronic data set — data stored on a disc. Fukino is carefully parsing her words and clearly dissimulating, but why?

Now let’s examine what USA Today is reporting: “Hawaii’s health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the Health Department’s archives.”

That statement is false. It is not what Fukino said. Fukino did not say, “she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the Health Department’s archives” — and USA Today even put their made-up statement within quotes.


Lots more on this subject here:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/07/28/certifigate-fukino-declares-natural-born-citizenship-radio-talkers-lose-jobs-on-eligibility/

Others have filed FOIA requests with the Dept of HI:

Please provide me all electronic and written documents that will satisfy the following: the policies & procedures, Names of Individuals and Titles of Position within or without the Department, all Communications Records possessed by the Department between individuals within or without the Department; and that pertain to the RELEASE OF THE PUBLICLY RELEASED STATEMENT and the decision to release the statement, made by Dr. Chiyome Fukino on July 27, 2008, on behalf of‘the Hawaii State Department of Health:


STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Direct‘r of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—

Request for Disclosure of Records & Information: I cite the rule, (§92F-12) Agency Records that Must Always Be Disclosed; Part (15) “Information collected for the purpose of making information available to the public; [and]) (With NO exceptions noted):

Please provide me all electronic and written documents that will satisfy the following: the policies & procedures, Names of Individuals and Titles of Position within or without the Department, all Communications Records possessed by the Department between individuals within or without the Department; and that pertain to the RELEASE OF THE PUBLICLY RELEASED STATEMENT and the decision to release the statement, made by Dr. Chiyome Fukino on October 31, 2008, on‘behalf of the Hawaii State Department of Health:

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law ( Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii.”

Please consider this request as a Hawaii UIPA (Uniform Information Practices Act) request under section 92F-12.

I would also appreciate confirmation of receipt of this request in a timely manner per guidelines.


So, what you have is a Director making a statement without providing ANY evidence, and you want us to just Trust Her? Why? And Why is Obama preventing those records from being seen under the FOIA? How is he providing Transparency to his office, and his Administration.


418 posted on 03/18/2010 2:49:42 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

I also just read this today...


The AP also incorrectly stated that “Both Fukino and the state registrar of vital statistics have verified that the Health Department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.” At no time has anyone with the title of “Registrar of Vital Statistics” made any statement about Obama’s records. Rather, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Health Department, is the only person to have stated that her department has anything on file for Obama. Fukino also apparently perjured herself while testifying regarding the volume and nature of UIPA requests for Obama’s birth records.

Despite citing Hawaii’s privacy laws on birth records as the reason she cannot release information about them, Fukino has never demonstrated that Obama gave her permission to inspect his file by a “direct and tangible interest in the record,” as required by Hawaii law. Dr. Fukino also has never provided supporting, or “index data,” to back up her claim that Obama is a “natural-born American citizen.” Obama himself also refuses to back up this statement.


419 posted on 03/20/2010 10:40:43 PM PDT by etraveler13
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