Not exactly. They said unknown vital records veryify his birth in Hawaii. The only official vital record that does this is a birth certificate, but the state official in question (there was only one), made it clear she was not citing obama's birth certificate as the source of this alleged verification.
No assumptions are required to know that the long form shows birth in Hawaii. We know this for two reasons: 1) state officials say his records show brith in Hawaii
Sorry, debunked.
and 2) his birth was announced in the Hawaii papers in 1961.
The birth anouncement didn't list a place of birth.
Hawaii did not register foreign births at the time, and the papers got the birth data for their announcements straight from the Health Bureau upon the registration of said births.
The state did register foreign births. It's why spokesbabe Okubo said that if the child was born in Bali, the COLB should say Bali as the place of birth (odd coincidence she picked a place in Indonesia).
First of all, Obama made unredacted photos of the COLB available.
No, what the amateur factcheckers photographed was not the same document that Obama originally presented as a jpg. Somehow the document paper grew in the photos. The pictures also fail to show that the signature block on the back clearly belongs to Obama's alleged COLB. Why won't they expose Obama's backside??
Second of all, there's corroborating evidence supporting the Hawaiian COLB: state officals confirm the state's record shows he was born in Hawaii, and there are birth announcements in the papers, and we know birth announcements were received directly from the department of health. Contrary to birther mythology, they were not phoned in.
State law allows ANYBODY to report a birth to the DOH. IOW, an unattended birth could have been 'phoned in' by anybody. Your other points were already debunked.
Furthermore, birth records in Kenya are open to the public, so if Bamabi was born there, birthers would be able to prove it. The fact that they haven't is very telling.
Feel free to prove this.
What you fail to grasp is that once a state registers a person's birth, even if it is a home birth, the law presumes the registration to be accurate and such registration is sufficient proof of birth in any court of law. The burden of proof the shifts to those who would dispute the birth's location written in the state's records.
No such proof has been presented in a court of law. You ever stop to wonder why??
Therefore, if his long form showed a home birth in Hawaii, and you wanted to dispute the location, you would have to prove someone committed fraud to register his birth in Hawaii.
Nice qualifier. Now you're saying IF Obama ws born in Hawaii ... we don't know, do we. We shouldn't have to guess what it says. Let's just see it.
Of course, you would never be able to do that. And then there's also the sticky point that there was no motive for anyone to have committed such a crime, even if he were really born in Kenaya.
Presenting a false birth certificate is a crime. The motive was to fool the American public into believing Obama was really born in Hawaii so he could be president. Funny how you call yourself 'curiosity,' yet show no curiosity.
I am sure you agree...there are none so blind, as those who will not see....
Here is what the director of public health says:
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii."
You cannot get more clear or more explicit than that.
The only official vital record that does this is a birth certificate, but the state official in question (there was only one), made it clear she was not citing obama's birth certificate as the source of this alleged verification.
Where exactly did she "make clear" she was not citing his birth certificate? I don't see it in her statement. Do point it out.
Sorry, debunked.
Nope.
The birth anouncement didn't list a place of birth.
Doesn't matter, since the state did not register foreign births at the time.
The state did register foreign births. It's why spokesbabe Okubo said that if the child was born in Bali, the COLB should say Bali as the place of birth (odd coincidence she picked a place in Indonesia).
The law allowing the registration of foreign births was not passed until 1982. There was no such provision under the laws in effect in 1961.
No, what the amateur factcheckers photographed was not the same document that Obama originally presented as a jpg.
How do you know?
Somehow the document paper grew in the photos.
That's because the first image was a scan, not a photo.
The pictures also fail to show that the signature block on the back clearly belongs to Obama's alleged COLB.
They show photos of the front and the back. What else would you have them do?
Why won't they expose Obama's backside??
They do show a photo of the back of the document.
State law allows ANYBODY to report a birth to the DOH. IOW, an unattended birth could have been 'phoned in' by anybody. Your other points were already debunked.
The above statement is simply untrue.
Feel free to prove this [birth records in Kenya being open the public).
Sure. Here you go:
No such proof has been presented in a court of law. You ever stop to wonder why??
Yes. It's because no court has asked for it.
Nice qualifier. Now you're saying IF Obama ws born in Hawaii ... we don't know, do we.
We know the state vital records say he was born in Hawaii. That is enough under the law to prove he was born there. The presumption is now on you to disprove it.
Presenting a false birth certificate is a crime.
True. However, there has yet to be uncovered as shred of evidence that the COLB he did present is false.
Edge919: Feel free to prove this.
Me: Gladly. See Cap 149, Section 26 of Kenyan Law. I quote the relevant passage below:
Cap 149: Births and Deaths Registration
Section 26: Inspection of Registers and Provisions of Copies and Certificates
(1) Any register, return or index in the custody of the Principal Registrar subject to the rules, shall be open to inspection on payment of the prescribed fee.
(2) The Principal Registrar shall, on payment of the prescribed fee, furnish a certified copy of any entry in any register or in any return in his custody.
(3) The Principal Registrar shall, on payment of the prescribed fee, furnish a certificate in the prescribed form of the birth of any person compiled in the prescribed manner from the records and registers in his custody.
(4) A certified copy of any entry in any register or return sealed or stamped with the seal of the Principal Registrar shall be received as evidence of the dates and facts therein contained without any or other proof of such entry.
If you don't believe I have faithfully cut and paste the appropriate text, you can look it up for yourself here:
http://www.kenyalaw.org/kenyalaw/klr_home/
Click on the "Cap Title" tab, and type in 149. Then scroll down to section 26.
Therefore, if Obama happens to have a birth certificate on file in Kenya, anyone will to pay a nominal fee has access to it.
Now why is it that no one has come up with one?