4 Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"

The Post Mail ^ | 10/18/2009 | John Charlton

[MindBender26]

The law is the law is the lay

Curse it, the wind, or the gods, at your peril.

The writer should know this.

[TheOldLady]

Feh.

[MindBender26]

The law is the law is the law

Curse it, the wind, or the gods, at your peril.

The writer should know this.

[bgill]

In Arkansas, the Secretary of State certified him a year before the form was sent to him by the RAT party. Either it was a mistake or Daniels knew the truth but was afraid to do anything, but either way, it makes the entire certification null and void.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/15127

[TheOldLady]

I’ll handle this one, Ron.

Windflyer, LVR’s post was sarcasm.

[Windflier]

Windflyer, LVR’s post was sarcasm.

I saw his "/FReeper Troll" tag, but it didn't make sense to my until after I'd posted.

I got it, Ron.

[etraveler13]

True...I checked it out.
I added the linked references to my post at the bottom, it links:
Emer Vattle’s biography
Vattels Law of Nations
SCOTUS before 1900
The Cases:
Venus
Shanks vs. Dupont
Minor vs. Happersett
US vs. Wong Kim Ark

These are excellent quick references to much of what is being debated today...

I hope this addition helps everybody to better understand what has happened, and how to fix and prevent further abuses by those who purport to represent the citizens of the US.

[Las Vegas Ron]

LOL.....didn’t mean to cause a ruccus!

[Windflier]

The “Law of Nations” is also referenced in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

Yes, I've seen that. Too bad that the Framers didn't put quotation marks around the title and reference Vattel by name in parenthesis to drive it home.

It would have been even better if they'd simply stated their definition of NBC in the Constitution, but in their day, clear and simple words conveyed clear and simple meanings.

I'm sure they had no idea that the implied understandings expressed in their eloquent 18th century tongue would leave holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through in centuries hence.

[TheOldLady]

It's the SARCHASM!

</sarc>

[thecodont]

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

Constitution of the United States

Article. II.

Section. 1.

Clause 5

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

"No Person except a natural born Citizen..."

"…or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution…"

"…shall be eligible to the Office of President;…"

"Of course, you can attain the office by FRAUD…if you can get away with it…"

"Ha, hah."

[MHGinTN]

Criminal, immoral people seek loopholes. That just about defines the affirmative action fraud-in-chief and his scummy apologists working FR.

[hoosiermama]

FYI

[GBA]

So...let me see if I understand what defines a Natural Born Citizen from what you've posted:

Someone born in the United States of America to American citizens.

In the time of our framers, primary importance seems to be placed upon the father and his citizenship over that of the mother.

Hmmm...so even if obama was born in Hawaii, though no one can prove it, his father was not an American citizen. Then...

Even if obama was born in Hawaii, though no one can prove it, obama would be a citizen, but not a Natural Born Citizen and therefore inelligible to be the President of the United States of America per Constitutional requirement.

The only way obama is a Natural Born Citizen is if his daddy isn't who he says he is, but is an American citizen.

So...now what???

[Windflier]

LOL.....didn’t mean to cause a ruccus!

Well, you did such a good job of imitating a typical after-birther that a lot of us fell for it. You've obviously spent time in the trenches fighting them.

Good job!

[Red Steel]

That's huge. I had no idea that Ben Franklin testified to the fact that the Framers consulted Vattel's work while drafting the Constitution. That is very important.

Huge. In visual.

The source is courtesy of BP2.

[Las Vegas Ron]

{;^)

[Windflier]

Criminal, immoral people seek loopholes.

That just about defines the affirmative action fraud-in-chief and his scummy apologists working FR.

Couldn't agree more.

For my part, I'm at a complete loss to explain or understand the Obama apologists on FR. I suppose many of them simply have contrarian personalities, or perhaps they simply like to argue the minutiae of law, while totally overlooking the broader implications of the arguments presented to them.

[machogirl]

That was a nice analysis. Thanks for posting it.

[Red Steel]

I'm at a complete loss to explain or understand the Obama apologists on FR.

Obot Democrats, Liberals, Commies as they do post on FR.