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>You seem angry...not at all proud of your support for the rats.

And why should I be? I said that I would vote for Obama before McCain; but I could always vote third-party... Oh, I forgot, that IS voting for Obama. [/sarc]

>You don’t think rats lie, and you believe they are great listeners too. I got it now. Thanx

Hell no. They just don’t even pretend they’re listening and say “I’m going to do it MY way.” In all, it’s far more honest than the republican stance of “we hear you; fiscal responsi.. oh, look, let’s spend on this shiny new thing.”

In other words, the Democrats are at least truthful about their party’s planks and will tend towards them even against constituents. Republicans, on the other hand, claim (for example) to be anti-abortion, having it on their stated list of planks; yet, during the six-years they were the majority (with Bush in office) they didn’t even so much as propose federally illegalizing abortion... no they were too busy spending money that we didn’t/don’t have! IOW, they are only “FOR” fiscal responsibility or the life of the unborn when it comes to getting elected.

We can see this now even. Instead of stamping a foot down and bringing up the Constitutionality issues on EVERY POSSIBLE POINT in an effort to block-and-defeat a WIDELY unpopular “healthcare reform” bill they’re putting on a show of how hard they “tried” but “because of some people not toeing-the-party line it happened anyway...” OR maybe “we couldn’t do anything, the rules were changed on us.”

It is hard for me to believe I got you to say rats "honestly" don't care what you think, and you find that refreshing. That is their superior selling point for a conservative like you. Thanks for correcting me, and good reasoning

Republicans, on the other hand, claim (for example) to be anti-abortion, having it on their stated list of planks; yet, during the six-years they were the majority (with Bush in office) they didn’t even so much as propose federally illegalizing abortion...

the accomplishments of George W Bush

Banned Partial Birth Abortion - by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade. Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.
By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.

And the best chance to overturn RvW in decades now that we have young and smart Chief Justice of the United States Roberts and Justice Alito. I'm happy I could help educate you.