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For the Love of Islam - A Second American Woman Is Arrested in Cartoonist Case
wsj.com ^ | March 13, 2010 | VANESSA O'CONNELL,STEPHANIE SIMON, EVAN PEREZ

Posted on 03/12/2010 7:31:14 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Last Easter, Jamie Paulin-Ramirez, a 31-year-old mom with a $30,000-a-year job as a medical assistant, announced to her family that she had converted to Islam. A few months later, she began posting to Facebook forums whose headings included "STOP caLLing MUSLIMS TERRORISTS!"

On Sept. 11, she suddenly left Leadville, Colo., a small town in the Rocky Mountains, for Denver, then for New York, to meet and marry a Muslim man she connected with online, her family says. Ms. Paulin-Ramirez, who is 5-foot-11 and blonde, phoned her mother and stepfather in Leadville, providing them with an address in Waterford, Ireland, they say.

Now, she is in the custody of the Irish police, along with six other individuals, arrested as part of an investigation into a conspiracy to commit murder, according to officials familiar with the case. The nature of the authorities' suspicions about Ms. Paulin-Ramirez couldn't be determined on Friday.

Ms. Paulin-Ramirez's interest in Islam "came out of left field," said her mother, Christine Holcomb-Mott, in an interview at her home Friday, wearing a blue sweatsuit with a silver cross around her neck.

"I'm angry with her right now," Ms. Holcomb-Mott said. "I'd like to just choke her. But I'm worried about her, too. I love my daughter."


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KEYWORDS: islam; paulinramirez; terrorism
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1 posted on 03/12/2010 7:31:14 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How could this be possible?? I thought Islam was a religion of peace.


2 posted on 03/12/2010 7:33:25 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just wait until she gets a taste of what it’s like being a moslem “wife”.


3 posted on 03/12/2010 7:35:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obviously too many hyphens in the family...


4 posted on 03/12/2010 7:36:50 PM PST by telebob
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think anyone that happens to be born and raised in American that chooses Islam after being raised in this country is just a person looking for attention, to be different, to stand out.


5 posted on 03/12/2010 7:37:50 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I wonder if she did it for a husband who was supposed to protect and provide, as the father of her child(ren) didn’t.


6 posted on 03/12/2010 7:42:29 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Watched a video of a young persons process of conversion...what is stricking is along the way of Islamic teaching there are crisis moments where they see with clarity the teachings are not in line with good standards of reason and common sense....they “DECIDE” to ignore the red lights and or accept them and continue.

This girl knew what she was doing...I have no problem with her spending her sentence away from her fmaily in a foreighn countries prison...none.


7 posted on 03/12/2010 7:43:02 PM PST by caww
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To: Gay State Conservative

Just wait till she gets a taste of Irish prison food - potatoes, potato soup, potato suffle’, etc.


8 posted on 03/12/2010 7:43:04 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Watched a video of a young persons process of conversion...what is stricking is along the way of Islamic teaching there are crisis moments where they see with clarity the teachings are not in line with good standards of reason and common sense....they “DECIDE” to ignore the red lights and or accept them and continue.

This girl knew what she was doing...I have no problem with her spending her sentence away from her fmaily in a foreighn countries prison...none.


9 posted on 03/12/2010 7:43:46 PM PST by caww
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"STOP caLLing MUSLIMS TERRORISTS!" ... On Sept. 11, she suddenly left Leadville ... [note the date] ... Now, she is in the custody of the Irish police, along with six other individuals, arrested as part of an investigation into a conspiracy to commit murder... "

A rose by any other name...

10 posted on 03/12/2010 7:44:19 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: doc1019
" looking for attention, to be different, to stand out."

I completely agree with you, but this is an easy answer. The real question is, why is that she cannot find a place in her own culture?

And the answer, to mind mind, is that there is no America culture that is being celebrated. What she heard all of her life is that the Constitution is not to be respected because its signer owned slaves, that the Founding Fathers were all wrong, that America is responsible for all the evils in the world, etc. etc. etc... The fault is ours that people convert to Islam at the record pace. And it's not just here: the entire Western Civilization is in the process of a suicide.

11 posted on 03/12/2010 7:49:58 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Clueless moron.


12 posted on 03/12/2010 7:51:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: telebob

Shouldn’t her name be Jamie Holcomb-Mott-Paulin-Ramirez?


13 posted on 03/12/2010 7:56:23 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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” looking for attention, to be different, to stand out.”

At 5’11” and blonde, THAT shouldn’t be hard to do!;)

And the answer, to mind mind, is that there is no America culture that is being celebrated. What she heard all of her life is that the Constitution is not to be respected because its signer owned slaves, that the Founding Fathers were all wrong, that America is responsible for all the evils in the world, etc. etc. etc... The fault is ours that people convert to Islam at the record pace. And it’s not just here: the entire Western Civilization is in the process of a suicide.

Agreed- couldn’t have said it better. Product of Communist indoctrination and fell for it hook line and sinker. Remember-born in 1979-in kindergarten she was probably frightened out of her wits that the horrible Reagan was going to take her lunch away and she’d be hungry and homeless!/s


14 posted on 03/12/2010 7:59:35 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: coloradan

Stop calling muslims terroists or we’ll KILL you!


15 posted on 03/12/2010 8:02:12 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: boop
I can't believe no one has pronounced judgment yet. Let me do the honors: GUILTY!
16 posted on 03/12/2010 8:10:51 PM PST by outofstyle (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Balding_Eagle
"Shouldn’t her name be Jamie Holcomb-Mott-Paulin-Ramirez?"

Yeah - and where's the muslim name?

17 posted on 03/12/2010 8:14:03 PM PST by telebob
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To: Balding_Eagle

She looks like a LURleen to me.


18 posted on 03/12/2010 8:14:28 PM PST by Gapplega
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Both of these women seem like they were merely looking for some excitement in life.

They found it. Years in jail will do it.


19 posted on 03/12/2010 8:16:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: doc1019; Free ThinkerNY
I think anyone that happens to be born and raised in American that chooses Islam after being raised in this country is just a person looking for attention, to be different, to stand out.

That, yes, but isn't it curious that we heard of two such, blonde, American women in the past few days involved with terrorism? It may be like the dumbo, bimbos that latch onto serial killers or other criminals in prison. The noteriety, maybe, but some of these men prey on lonely women. They find them online or through others, start a friendly relationship, pay them special attention, tell them how beautiful and wonderful they are. Things some of these women don't seem to have that much with "normal" men. These women then make perfect patsies for sending them money, bringing them drugs and getting messages out for them. All because "He loves me, and I love him." They usually have no idea how they are being used and that the criminal probably has several women he is stringing along that way.

These Muslim jihadis can probably be just as charming and complimentary starting out. They probably know the right words to say, get the woman to believe he loves her and needs her, he may be able to send her gifts, money, have her go on trips together. It's designed to weaken the will of an already weak woman. Pretty sure there are then some sad stories to help gain her sympathy. She is probably chosen in the first place because of her seemingly weak self-esteem, no strong ties to the community or a family and no real goals in life.

What better decoy for a muslim terrorist to use than a normal looking, white, fairskinned and hair, light eyes, somewhat intelligent, may have a job, mave have a passport or will not find it difficult to get one, but not too smart, so easily convinced by a man that shows he cares for her.

Little, does she realise she is being used and set-up. It may not take long under the influence of these men, through using drugs, promises, jewelry, travel, nice clothes, close sexual relationships, for these women to give in and give concent to what she is being told she is needed to do.

There needs to be a lot of warning out there for women to be suspicious of strangers approaching them and trying to get very friendly very quickly. A sure-tell sign would be someone who is militaristic and zealous for Islam.

Don't fall for it ladies, it can ruin, destroy or take your life! Or, even worse, your family and your freedom. You could become involved in something that make you culpable to murder and other terrorists action that you become an accessory to and you could end up in prison or deathrow.

We Americans must stand up for our country and not allow the enemey to trick us into harming our own people.

20 posted on 03/12/2010 8:24:51 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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