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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Why would you consider Wilders to be an extremist like Stalin or Hitler? I think that’s an entirely unjustified stance.

Here is part of his party’s official position statement:

“The Party for Freedom combines economic liberalism* with a conservative programme towards immigration and culture. The party seeks tax cuts (€16 billion in the 2006 election programme), de-centralization, abolishment of the minimum wage, limiting of child benefits and government subsidies. Towards immigration and culture, the party believes that the Judeo-Christian and humanist traditions should be treated as the dominant culture in the Netherlands, and that immigrants should adapt accordingly. The party wants a halt to immigration from non-western countries. It is skeptical towards the EU project, is against future EU enlargement with countries like Turkey and opposes the presence of Islam in the Netherlands. The party is also opposed to dual citizenship.”

Does this sound fascist to you? Wilders seems to me to be the sort of politician that the average American conservative could easily support. His rhetoric is more politically incorrect than Americans are used to, but I think that only the supposedly “conservative” elites and mouthpieces care about abiding by the rules of political correctness.

*Liberalism here, of course, means classical liberalism, i.e., laissez-faire capitalism.


54 posted on 03/13/2010 4:24:42 AM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: FenwickBabbitt
Towards immigration and culture, the party believes that the Judeo-Christian and humanist traditions should be treated as the dominant culture in the Netherlands, and that immigrants should adapt accordingly.

The validity of that stance, to my mind, hinges upon how the immigrants are expected to "adapt accordingly." If the party platform simply proposes that government not provide any means of pandering to foreign religions and cultures, that's fine in my book. On the other hand, if it means using the power of government to force assimilation into a particular set of traditions and/or religion, that's "fascist," in the way the term is generally used here.

Incidentally, I think you misunderstand my earlier point, and having taken a second look at what I wrote, I can understand why: it was not a good analogy. I was trying to bring forth the observation that while some of Wilders's viewpoints might very well be valid and favorable from a short-term conservative perspective, the totality of what he believes, or the reasons why he believes it, might make him, in the long-run, quite an unsavory character, unworthy of the kind of adulation he receives from some of us. Think of former Congressman Massa in that regard.

55 posted on 03/13/2010 6:56:33 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (A gentleman in the drawing room; a rapist in the boudoir.)
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