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Corrie's sister to Haaretz: U.S. encouraged family to sue Israel
haaretz ^ | 3/12/10 | Akiva Eldar

Posted on 03/12/2010 8:53:14 AM PST by Nachum

This is Sarah Corrie Simpson's first visit to Israel. Her younger sister, Rachel Corrie, was killed by an Israel Defense Forces bulldozer in Gaza in 2003, at the age of 23. Now, the family is suing the state in the Haifa District Court.

"I'm glad the day is finally here, that the eyewitnesses are having a chance to talk in a court of law," she said in an interview with Haaretz on Thursday. "It's been seven long years."

The witnesses, who include Rachel's colleagues in the left-wing International Solidarity Movement, say Rachel climbed atop a mount of dirt to be sure the driver could see her, Simpson said. When he nevertheless kept coming at her, she tried to flee, but tripped and fell. "The bulldozer driver kept driving with the blade down, pushing the dirt over Rachel, and stopped when her body was under the cab."

"My father served in the military in Vietnam and was responsible for bulldozer operations," Simpson added. "He said there is no way that what happened to Rachel would have happened on his watch.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corrie; corries; flat; flatrate; flatratepostage; haaretz; pancake; pancakesforpalestine; rachel; rachelcorrie; saintpancake; sister; suei; thinasadime
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To: TopQuark

Also, it’s not San Francisco. It’s in most western countries and Israel included. Tell you what, brainstorm. Let’s have a test. You go run over someone who’s in front of your car who won’t move fast enough and we’ll give you a pass.


21 posted on 03/12/2010 9:11:51 AM PST by votemout
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To: TopQuark

Isn’t there somebody at the State Department that doesn’t like “F*ing Jews!”?


22 posted on 03/12/2010 9:12:03 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: votemout

Even if that is how it happened, (and I don’t believe it was) she was intentionally impeding a military operation in a combat zone. She was an enemy combatant, trying to protect the tunnels and hideouts used to stage terror attacks that blow up innocent women and children. She was a traitor and an enemy of the United States and Israel, killed while facilitating terrorist attacks. She was a vile, disgusting human being and got exactly what she asked for and deserved.

Why am I suddenly in the mood for pancakes?


23 posted on 03/12/2010 9:12:26 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Gay State Conservative
One of the first things that my parents taught me as a kid was “when a bulldozer's coming toward you,make it a point to move out of its way”.

That's only because your dad wasn't in charge of bulldozer operations in your town, Mr Corrie was, based on his experience in Vietnam.

24 posted on 03/12/2010 9:13:53 AM PST by xone
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To: Gay State Conservative

“If I was on the jury I’d vote for an award that equals 5 US cents.”

i’d vote the family get nothing and have to pay court costs!


25 posted on 03/12/2010 9:14:25 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

“If I was on the jury I’d vote for an award that equals 5 US cents.”

>>>i’d vote the family get nothing and have to pay court costs!<<<

I’d also order them buy a pancake breakfast for everyone in the courtroom.


26 posted on 03/12/2010 9:15:56 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Nachum

“Simpson said it was a U.S. government official”

I’m guessing it was her mailman. I really like our mail-lady
and we chat from time-to-time about criminal procedure.


27 posted on 03/12/2010 9:17:56 AM PST by tumblindice ( How long? Until the last dog dies)
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To: Nachum
Rachel climbed atop a mount of dirt to be sure the driver could see her

Unfortunately for the lying Corries, photos were actually taken that day. Where is the "mound of dirt" she was standing "atop"? I sure don't see it. Her head was a good 5 FEET below the top of the blade!


28 posted on 03/12/2010 9:19:38 AM PST by montag813
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To: Above My Pay Grade
I commented on the description of another poster.

This incident should have been handled by waiting for the police or military to arrest her and drag her off. There is nothing to indicate it required her to be killed for not moving, at that moment. Absent other facts, the driver committed manslaughter or worse.

When people lied down in front of troop trains, we arrested them and removed them from the tracks. There was no immediacy or urgent need to run over them, as much as you would liked to have seen it.

Pass the syrup.

29 posted on 03/12/2010 9:22:38 AM PST by votemout
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To: Nachum

Killdozer (1974) (TV) More at IMDbPro »


30 posted on 03/12/2010 9:22:46 AM PST by windcliff
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To: Nachum
Her younger sister, Rachel Corrie, was killed by an Israel Defense Forces bulldozer

This assertion is not beyond dispute. The facts that are not in dispute are that she was struck by debris that was being pushed by an Israeli Defense Forces bulldozer, and taken to a Palestinian hospital where she died.

It was in the interest of the Palestinians that she die and of the Israelis that she live. Had she been taken to an Israeli hospital she might be alive today.

31 posted on 03/12/2010 9:26:22 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Kozy

If you behaved like that in a construction zone, you’d have a pretty good chance of getting yourself killed.


32 posted on 03/12/2010 9:28:23 AM PST by stop_fascism (Georgism is Capitalism's best, last hope)
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To: votemout
It's much simpler than that: it was an accident. And, yes, in all Western countries great many perpetrators of vehicular homicide are not prosecuted, let alone convicted, whenever the victim is him/herself at fault.

You are arguing against a straw man. IF the death was inflicted purposefully, the driver would be at fault. IF he showed gross negligence, he would be at fault. Everyone agrees with that. Except the premises are false. Firstly, the driver did not see her and, secondly, the circumstances made easy for that accident to happen (hence my remark about San Fransisco).

33 posted on 03/12/2010 9:29:35 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: votemout

“manslaughter”: def. The unjustifiable, inexcusable, and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice.

Using your example, if someone steps out in front of your car, intentionally, and you strike and kill them with your car, is their intent imputed to you so that you are guilty of manslaughter?

This isn’t a story about American tree-huggers/`Lisa Simpsons’/trust fund babies lying down in front of logging trucks. Actions have consequences. She would be alive if she had not placed herself in front a working bulldozer. The operator was just trying to do his job.


34 posted on 03/12/2010 9:33:22 AM PST by tumblindice ( How long? Until the last dog dies)
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To: massgopguy
"Isn’t there somebody at the State Department that doesn’t like “F*ing Jews!”?"

I don't know exactly how to read this post. If you mean to say that all people in the State Department are somehow particularly Jew-loving, you are factually incorrect.

As a side remark, being Jewish, I don't appreciate it when someone refers to my people as “F*ing Jews!”

35 posted on 03/12/2010 9:33:43 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Gay State Conservative
I would be more generous that that...

I would award them a $50.00 gift certificate to IHOP...


36 posted on 03/12/2010 9:35:03 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Nachum
"My father served in the military in Vietnam and was responsible for bulldozer operations," Simpson added. "He said there is no way that what happened to Rachel would have happened on his watch." I'm calling BS on that statement. There is a huge difference between the unarmored CAT D-7E that was used in Vietnam and the much larger armored CAT D-9R. D-7: D-9R: The D7 above is a slightly newer model, the Vietnam era ones didn't have the ROPS (Roll-Over Protection System) fitted to them. But it's plainly obvious that there is still much better visability from the D7 then there is from the much larger D9 And the claim that the father was a Vietnam vet is a little fishy too unless he's a VVAW/Winter Soldier traitor like john fraud kerry since he's obviously not ashamed by the fact that his dimwit daughter was a member of a rabid anti-American/anti-Israeli communist organization.
37 posted on 03/12/2010 9:35:21 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: tumblindice
The details which were stated were that she was in front of the equipment and the driver told her to move. Then he ran over her. That is a classic instance of manslaughter, unless you can tell me that he could not stop or avoid it.

Has nothing to do with tree huggers or the like. It's a legal issue. When you stop being blinded by your political beliefs, you can see the true meaning of the laws.

You example is not sufficient enough to make a determination. Could you have stopped or not? That is the critical issue. You don't have a free pass to run over evertyone who steps in front of your car. If you did, the cities of the US would be strewn with bodies everyday or until people get the point.

Let's proceed under the assumption that we are both rational thinking people. So don't insult me again with this type of example and comments.

38 posted on 03/12/2010 9:46:30 AM PST by votemout
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To: TopQuark

If you see someone in front of your vehicle and you tell them to move and then run over them, you are guilty of manslaughter, unless you were unable to stop or aviod it.


39 posted on 03/12/2010 9:47:51 AM PST by votemout
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To: Gay State Conservative

No offense there GSC, but if your parents had to teach you that then you were one slow child... :)


40 posted on 03/12/2010 9:53:22 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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