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To: aSeattleConservative
So, it is your view that gays cannot be contributing members of society?

If that is the case, I imagine that you would want to banish my gay brother in law from society and take his place at his hospital and venture off to disaster zones when lives need to be saved.

And could you please cite the God Clause is the Constitution?

104 posted on 03/12/2010 2:45:51 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
So, it is your view that gays cannot be contributing members of society?

Oh, they "contribute" plenty: death, disease, misery, ATHEISM.

If that is the case, I imagine that you would want to banish my gay brother in law from society and take his place at his hospital and venture off to disaster zones when lives need to be saved.

Let's just hope that your brother-in-law didn't give blood while over in Haiti. Being that homosexual males are 50 (FIFTY) times more likely to be HIV infected than any other group, he'd end up ending more lives than he'd be saving. As a matter of fact, males that have sex with males are PROHIBITED from giving blood by all world blood donating organizations because of the AIDS/HIV threat involved.

If you really wanted to do your brother-in-law (and more importantly society) a favor, you'd show him that his chosen lifestyle is not only immoral in the eyes of God, but harmful to society (homosexuality is "a lifestyle that every major world religion and thousands of years of history have held to be immoral and destructive from a spiritual and emotional -- and certainly a physical standpoint.").

It's called "tough love".

And could you please cite the God Clause is the Constitution?

We both know that the Constitution was (mistakenly) written as a secular document for a Christian nation. In the Constitution there is no mention of God; in practically every other writings of the Founding Fathers, they acknowledge Him as the Supreme Ruler of our great Christian nation:

"With the exception of Rhode Island, every early American colony incorporated the entire Decalogue into its own civil code of laws. The Fundamental Orders of Connecticut declared that the Governor and his council of six elected officials would “have power to administer justice according to the laws here established; and for want thereof according to the rule of the word of God.” Also in 1638, the Rhode Island government adopted “all those perfect and most absolute laws of His, given us in His holy word of truth, to be guided and judged thereby. Exod. 24. 3, 4; 2 Chron. II. 3; 2 Kings. II. 17.”

Commander-in-Chief George Washington issued numerous military orders during the American Revolution that first prohibited swearing and then ordered an attendance on Divine worship, thus relating the prohibition against profanity to a religious duty.

The civil laws enacted to uphold the Fourth Commandment are so common that to list them all would fill many volumes. We don’t have to go any further than the United States Constitution in Article I, Sec. 7, par. 2: “If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless Congress by their Adjournment prevent its return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.” The President is given ten days to make his decision about a congressionally approved Bill, but not calculated in those ten days is Sunday.

Commandments five through ten have variously been incorporated into our legal codes. A1934 Louisiana appeals court cited the fifth commandment as the basis of civil policy between parents and children.

The implications of the eighth commandment, “You shall not steal,” finds various applications.

The ninth commandment prohibits “bearing false witness.” Laws against perjury in America go back to the colonial era and are still enforced today.

While there are no civil sanctions attached to the Tenth Commandment, you can see how it influences the other nine. John Adams, our nation’s second President, said it well: "The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If “Thou shalt not covet” and “Thou shalt not steal” were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society before it can be civilized or made free."

Would you like me to quote which states had sodomy laws (as mentioned, "The God Clause" finds sodomy to be an "abomination") up until somewhat recently? (all of them).

105 posted on 03/12/2010 4:13:07 PM PST by aSeattleConservative
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