House Dems Try to Pass Obamacare Without a Vote

RedState.com ^ | 3/10/10 | Leon H. Wolf

[SierraWasp]

"The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either."

I think we already know the answer to that question and we had better realize that it's gonna take more pure pressure than townhalls, teaparties and marches on Washington D.C. to enforce fealty to the highest law of our land and it's limitations on rogue governings as we are about to whitness!!!

(no loose cannons, and/or lone wolves, however)

We already are whitnessing more stress on and threats to our freedoms than the founders were forced to deal with from the King of England and we better find the courage to make it stop. Otherwise, it never will!!!

[Danae]

“And unlike other Unconstitutional things Congress does, there’s caselaw here suggesting pretty clearly that when Congress attempts to pass a law in the absence of proper bicameralism and presentment, a person negatively affected by Congress’s action (e.g., a person required to pay a fine for not having health insurance) has standing to challenge the law’s validity in the Courts. This farce is illegal and unconstitutional on its face, and someone has to be advising the Democrats in the House of this fact. They already know the American people don’t want this bill. They know by now that what they’re trying to do is illegal. The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either.”

That’s from the article.

[eyedigress]

The Wapo has summarized it here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/09/AR2010030903040.html?nav=rss_email/components

[LZ_Bayonet]

The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776 (pertinent statements)

[I know it looks a little long, but the Declaration contains statements which are not often brought to our attention.]

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. ... The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. ... He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. ... He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: ... For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: ... For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: ... For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: ... For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. ... He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us."

--- Fortunately, all WE have to do is vote in November.

[LZ_Bayonet]

“He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:”

[Reaganesque]

We knew that the Dems don’t feel the need to heed the voice of the voter but, now they’ve suggested that they don’t have to heed the voice of House either. That’s not a democracy.

[Reaganesque]

OK. Thanks!

[SierraWasp]

“whitness” should obviously be witness!!!

[Halgr]

What is the contemporary version of Torches and Pitchforks?????

[randomhero97]

From The Patriot:

why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can. - Captain Benjamin Martin

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

So, the real question is: "Will the officers of the United States military support this junta that would thus urinate on the Constitution?"

The day this happens, our nation becomes a tyranny.

[El Gato]

They already know the American people don’t want this bill. They know by now that what they’re trying to do is illegal. The question now is whether they still have the shame to care about either.

It's obvious that both questions must be answered in the negative.

They don't care about the opinions of The People, nor about legality, especially Constitutional legality. Concern for legality is for the "little people".

[Tucson]

A few years back, perhaps during GWB’s first administration, the State of Tennessee was attempting to pass an income tax because their experiment with state-wide universal healthcare (TennCare) was bankrupting the state. I don't recall all the facts but if memory serves, the citizens of Tennessee, having grown tired of being ignored, did a march on the capital and somewhat incarcerated their representatives in their chambers.
We have seen successful Tea Party gatherings that mustered over a million or more attendees. Perhaps it is time to do a gathering at the Capitol and subject all the members venturing outside to millions of angry voices. It could be a reverse townhall meeting.
Regardless of the calm the likes of Michael Medved or Bill Bennett hope to instill or the sheer naivety they exhibit, the fact is actions like this by our representatives suggest a coup has taken place and they have silently established themselves as collectively, Dictators-for-Life. If you have to ask “take our country back from whom”, you need look no further than actions like these.

[KingLudd]

All you need to do to bring the city to a halt is park your old John Deere tractor in the duck pond by the Vietnam Memorial. That was pure traffic hell for many days.

I’ll be there, working at my job, but I predict you will not garner ANY attention. Those in charge here are soulless and without conscience. Good luck anyway, but the cherry blossoms will still be out. Sorry.

pm me here and when you’re in town. I’ll buy you lunch.

[gitmo]

Thanks, LZ_Bayonet. That’s probably the fundamental aspect of the Declaration.

[cake_crumb]

That pretty much sums it up. If they’re really brain dead enough to try such a stunt.

[Man50D]

Of course, whether the 'Rats are successful with this banana-republic power grab depends on the cajones of the House GOP,

It depends on the people. We have the final say as we are the government, not Congress.

[Gator113]

I do not want Obama IMPEACHED... I want him IMPRISONED.

[El Gato]

--- Fortunately, all WE have to do is vote in November.

Remember what Stalin said about voting.

You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.

From: Vospominaniia Byvshego Sekretaria Stalina [ Memoirs of the former secretary of Stalin], Bazhanov, Boris.

He was taling about votes within the Communist Party, but the same principal applies to other votes.

[gitmo]

I’ll be there, working at my job, but I predict you will not garner ANY attention.

The Washington rulers don't give a whit what happens on the Mall, do they?