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To: Justice Department
Let's put on our detective hats here. I have already had this argument with Ed.

Evidence as I know it from this side of the computer.

2004-5-6-7 FBI looks at, discusses with Ivins, the anthrax situation.

Then they find 15 pairs of women's panties in the garbage at Ivins house. Fourteen of these have an unknown semen on them. Could be any males semen.

Then they ask Ivins for a DNA sample to eliminate him as the semen donor. Ivins knows this.

Five days later they find Ivins unresponsive on the floor of an upstairs bathroom.

So the real question is how long does it take to die from an overdose of Tylenol? I've got this question in to my EMT contact and I did see him, but he was on his way to a call, and said he would get back with me.

So how do you commit suicide with Tylenol?

Day 1...the day you find out they have taken your DNA in order to compare it with the panty semen. You take ??? how many Tylenol?

Day 2....do you feel that you might live, and then take more, and how many is enough?

Day 3....starting to feel sick or sicker? Do you take more? Did you take enough on Day 1? You can still tell the wife you have the flu.

Day 4....still no one knows you took all those Tylenol, so do you take more, is there a limit. Does anyone know how much to take? It will not show...not like you are shooting yourself, or got a noose around your neck.

Day 5.... passes out on the bathroom floor, not to be revived..

Dr. Ivins had plenty of opportunity to do this when they first let him know he was being investigated for anthrax. And they did pressure his family, but that did not break him.

It was this little set of panties that he did not want to answer for.

Now most MEN would just say...yeah and I sure had a lot of fun! Or it was realllllly good!! They would just own it and go on.

This was something that Ivins could not face and he chose suicide. But it was the DNA sample that triggered it, not anthrax.

14 posted on 03/10/2010 4:44:20 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: Battle Axe

Tylenol overdose can kill, but the way it kills will vary from person to person.

A general rule of thumb is a toxic dose is 150mg of acetaminophen for each kilogram of your body weight. The less you weigh, the less it will take. The more you weigh, the more you have to take.

Even then, other factors add on to what makes it lethal. If you were fasting, drink more than 3 alcoholic beverages, or for whatever reason not eating, half the normal lethal amount could kill you.

Even if you take the recommended amount, but for longer than 10 days, you could have the lethal amount build up inside of you.

Then again, you might be one of those odd people who could take a massive dose over a long period of time and nothing at all will happen.

How long will it take to die? Could be a few days, a few weeks, a few months, a couple of years, or never.

If you damage your liver, you risk other organ damage such as kidney, pancreas, heart and brain. You might not die, but you might have to live with the damage...or not.

It is a game of roulette


15 posted on 03/10/2010 4:57:16 PM PST by Justice Department
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To: Battle Axe
Could be ... but don't think so


18 posted on 03/10/2010 6:11:09 PM PST by Justice Department
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