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New McCain Bill: American Citizens May Be Held Without Charge During Hostilities
PoliGazette ^ | Mar. 10, 2010 | Michael Merritt

Posted on 03/10/2010 8:49:16 AM PST by AuntB

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To: AuntB

Well this is the final nail in his coffin.


21 posted on 03/10/2010 9:14:13 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ZULU

That Dum President FDR signed an EO to round up the Japanese.
Yes they can and HAVE done it.


22 posted on 03/10/2010 9:16:48 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: ZULU
Does the President have the authority to do this? I couldn;t see anything in the Constitution which would allow it.

Art. II Section 9 second clause. Allows suspension of habeus corpus during Rebellion or Invasion.

23 posted on 03/10/2010 9:17:01 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: freekitty

“Well this is the final nail in his coffin.”

Wouldn’t that be nice. We’ve heard that prediction for years over McCain’s duplicity. But I hope you’re right!


24 posted on 03/10/2010 9:17:16 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuntB

Curiouser and curiouser. The text of the bill, S.3081, is not on the Library of Congress Thomas website, nor at any other sites, including McCain’s Senate website list of legislation he is sponsoring. Yet this quotes the bill. Where this is provision come from?


25 posted on 03/10/2010 9:21:08 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: rabscuttle385

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26 posted on 03/10/2010 9:23:53 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: El Gato

Then why the need for a special bill like this?


27 posted on 03/10/2010 9:23:54 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: Marty62

FDR’s actions with respect to nationals of a hostile power makes sense. But with respect to citizens who were rounded up purely on the basis of their ethnicity, that does not.

But the Japanese issue is complicated, as I understand it, because it involved individuals who, although not citizens, were born here but denyed citizenship due to some racial quota.

If the Constitution already permits this kind of action, what is nut-boy John McCain doing here?


28 posted on 03/10/2010 9:26:51 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

“Then why the need for a special bill like this?”

THAT is the question!


29 posted on 03/10/2010 9:26:55 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuntB

I really dislike and disturst McCain - very much.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama wanted this for some nefarious reason and asked McCain to be his front man on it.


30 posted on 03/10/2010 9:28:09 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: Rockingham

We already got a jerk in the White House of questionable loyalty- lock him up!


31 posted on 03/10/2010 9:28:35 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: RC2

Only if that martial law declaration suspends habeus corpus. Which it probably would.


32 posted on 03/10/2010 9:29:49 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ZULU

You raise an interesting point.
McCain is a big amnesty supporter. What if this type of action was use to solve the illegal Alein problem?

Will he be willing to add that action to his bill?

Sounds like a real barnburner issue for JD. Needs to be reworked by someone familiar with the finer points of political argument. HUUUMMMM. Let Juan explain a bill that allows the Internment of American Citizens yet he wants amnesty for illegals.


33 posted on 03/10/2010 9:32:58 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: BlueDragon
The trouble is, we suppose, it would be a simple matter to just declare someone an enemy of the State under the provisions...then off to the Gulag you go...

Without a doubt the communists in power now and circumventing the constitution could declare conservative elements such as Tea Party participants as enemies of the state (current regime) and start rounding us/them up and off to holding camps. The possibility of this happening is more real than imagined.

They wouldn't need to round up everyone, just high profile people in sufficient numbers and covered in MSM, after which, resistance will crumble. We as a nation are weak internally, because we are so fragmented by the very large numbers of recent immigrants (legal & otherwise) who do not have any allegiance to our country nor the fundamental laws based on the constitution.

34 posted on 03/10/2010 9:32:58 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: TXDuke; call meVeronica

ping & bump for later read


35 posted on 03/10/2010 9:34:16 AM PST by call meVeronica
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To: bunkerhill7
That reminds me of the old joke about what would have happened at the inauguration if Goldwater had won in 1964:

Chief Justice: "Do you, Barry Goldwater, solemnly swear that you will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Goldwater: "I do. You're under arrest, Warren."

36 posted on 03/10/2010 9:36:02 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: HerrBlucher
Lincoln also suspended Habeas Corpus during the Civil War, so there is more than one precedent. So far as I know, though, the practice has never been codified into (blatantly unconstitutional - not that Mr. McCain has had a problem with that in the past) law and goes against what has been the long time trend in USSC decisions.

PS, Herr Blucher ... do the horses neigh at the mention of your name too?

37 posted on 03/10/2010 9:36:43 AM PST by katana (Interesting Times)
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To: Marty62

“McCain is a big amnesty supporter. What if this type of action was use to solve the illegal Alein problem?”

That is a big problem with Federal bills - adding crap that isn’t relevant to the main thrust of the legislation, burying it by making changes in the U.S. codes by reference instead of quoting the changed passage in its entirety.


38 posted on 03/10/2010 9:46:47 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

My point was that he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Hypocrit.


39 posted on 03/10/2010 9:51:30 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: AuntB
0bama, Holder, Emanuel would do this, sure. McCain? I didn't think even he was this insane.


40 posted on 03/10/2010 9:56:15 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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