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Serbs had to battle an Islamist threat, too
The Washington Times ^
| March 8, 2010
| Stella Jatras
Posted on 03/09/2010 7:23:41 PM PST by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora
Clinton's war against the Serbs was bullcrap from the beginning and most here knew it!
Nam Vet
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posted on
03/09/2010 10:30:46 PM PST
by
Nam Vet
(Inuendo IS NOT an Italian suppository.)
To: Ravnagora
Anyone who thinks there are "innocent muzzies" fighting in a war against their neighbors sure have never read any history.
Nam Vet
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posted on
03/09/2010 10:36:09 PM PST
by
Nam Vet
(Inuendo IS NOT an Italian suppository.)
To: Hoplite
. She's that stupid. Avoid the attempt of making stupid comments, Hoplite.
I am currently reading ‘The Krajina Chronicle’ by Srdja Trifkovic. It is an excellent, if slightly challenging read due to all of the Slavic names.
However, it chronicles the history of the Serbs from the very beginning. They are Eastern Orthodox and were a free people who were the warrior barrier between the Ottoman Empire and the heart of Europe.
The Austrian Hapsburgs invited them over to their side of the border and set them up w/o tax obligation and offered religious freedom in exchange for a virtual lifetime [age 16-60] of their men.
These people have been fighting a very old war for a very long time.
The Pig Wars in the early 20th c. may well have been the spark that started WWI as Austria/Hungary decided to lower the amount paid for pork. The Serbs had other ideas and sold it to the Germans and were prospering- which had been hard to do when the men were constantly being sent off to fight wars beyond the initial ‘Maginot’ line in the Balkans.
During the Clinton administration, when fighting broke out, initial news stories were pro-Serb. Then the talking points memo came out and the MSM message changed. I remember being very confused and my husband also heard the same conflicting message.
No FR to check for accuracy back then.
So Clinton backed his side, bombed the crap out of the Serbs [who STILL held out for an amazingly long time] and the rest is history.
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posted on
03/10/2010 12:55:35 AM PST
by
FreeStateYank
(I want my country and constitution back, now!)
To: tlozo
Lots and lots of Bosnian Muslim men when they were wiped out in a virtual turkey shoot as they fled Srebrenica and traveled with a Bosnian Muslim Military column trying to break through Serbian lines.
I think it's kinda funny. They must not have been very bright.
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posted on
03/10/2010 2:25:21 AM PST
by
getoffmylawn
(aka Cool Breeze)
To: getoffmylawn
"Lots and lots of Bosnian Muslim men when they were wiped out in a virtual turkey shoot as they fled Srebrenica and traveled with a Bosnian Muslim Military column trying to break through Serbian lines." Approximately 20,000 to 25,000 Bosniak refugees from Srebrenica were gathered in Potočari, seeking protection within the UN compound there. From the morning of 12 July, Serb forces began gathering men from the refugee population in Potočari and holding them in separate locations, and as the refugees began boarding the buses headed north towards Bosniak-held territory, Serb soldiers separated out men of military age who were trying to clamber aboard. Occasionally, younger and older men were stopped as well (some as young as 14 or 15, those who were well developed for their years).[46][47][48] These men were taken to a building in Potočari referred to as the White House. As early as the evening of 12 July 1995, Major Franken of the Dutchbat heard that no men were arriving with the women and children at their destination in Kladanj.[31] On 13 July 1995, Dutchbat troops witnessed definite signs that the Serb soldiers were murdering some of the Bosniak men who had been separated. For example, Corporal Vaasen saw two soldiers take a man behind the "White House", heard a shot and saw the two soldiers reappear alone. Another Dutchbat officer saw Serb soldiers murder an unarmed man with a single gunshot to the head and heard gunshots 2040 times an hour throughout the afternoon. When the Dutchbat soldiers told Colonel Joseph Kingori, a United Nations Military Observer (UNMO) in the Srebrenica area, that men were being taken behind the "White House" and not coming back, Colonel Kingori went to investigate. He heard gunshots as he approached, but was stopped by Serb soldiers before he could find out what was going on.[31] Some of the executions were carried out at night under arc lights, and industrial bulldozers then pushed the bodies into mass graves.[49] According to evidence collected from Bosniaks by French policeman Jean-René Ruez, some were buried alive; he also heard testimony describing Serb forces killing and torturing refugees at will, streets littered with corpses, people committing suicide to avoid having their noses, lips and ears chopped off, and adults being forced to watch the soldiers kill their children.[49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre "I think it's kinda funny. They must not have been very bright." Funny? The Srebrenica massacre is the largest mass murder in Europe since World War II.
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posted on
03/10/2010 5:48:33 AM PST
by
tlozo
To: Hoplite
my my are we annoyed today dumbo?
You just cannot handle the truth.
truth hurts.
Collecting hitler memorabilia are we?
47
posted on
03/10/2010 6:45:00 AM PST
by
eleni121
(For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
To: tlozo; getoffmylawn
GOML: it appears that we have a new cut and paste the big lie poster.
Lozo-—> What a dunce!
48
posted on
03/10/2010 6:47:17 AM PST
by
eleni121
(For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
To: Will88
1. If you have to draw other arguments we've had into this thread, then it's an indication that your arguments* aren't that strong, and
2. I have yet to see anyone make a reasoned, rational argument in favor of genocide here or elsewhere.
_____
*I'll be reminding you to "take the long view" in the future, just wait.
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posted on
03/10/2010 6:47:41 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Will88
Will - save your breath on these wizbangs.
They have a personal agenda. No logic or fact can sway them. They are as zombified as OBL.
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posted on
03/10/2010 6:52:51 AM PST
by
eleni121
(For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
To: 1rudeboy
2. I have yet to see anyone make a reasoned, rational argument in favor of genocide here or elsewhere. Who's trying? Tell us which group has been totally eliminated from the Balkans? There has been no genocide in the Balkans, just another episode in a very old and vicious conflict.
51
posted on
03/10/2010 6:57:27 AM PST
by
Will88
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Comment #53 Removed by Moderator
To: ohioman
I know...I get so distressed whenever he calls me names.
“Hoplite”-—in his dreams— he’s more of a modern day helot.
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posted on
03/10/2010 7:20:17 AM PST
by
eleni121
(For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
To: getoffmylawn
Not to mention the deaths due to muslim infighting that occurred because of the order given to flee Srebrenica didn’t make it to everyone.
I guess Oric had extremely poor communication skills.
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posted on
03/10/2010 7:26:21 AM PST
by
montyspython
("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
To: Nam Vet
Its a simple matter of the pervasive secular liberalism infecting America that is causing the current decline in critical thinking skills.
Muslim apologists even exist here on FR.
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posted on
03/10/2010 7:32:17 AM PST
by
montyspython
("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
To: FreeStateYank
Its an exceptional book and I am proud to have a signed copy.
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posted on
03/10/2010 7:33:23 AM PST
by
montyspython
("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
To: tlozo
Like I said... funny stuff! :D
I hope the Serbs killed ever single one of Nasir Oric's men. The only good Muslim terrorist is a dead Muslim terrorist.
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posted on
03/10/2010 9:15:48 AM PST
by
getoffmylawn
(aka Cool Breeze)
To: montyspython
Very cool! Congrats on your signed copy :-) How did you manage that?
59
posted on
03/10/2010 11:40:08 AM PST
by
FreeStateYank
(I want my country and constitution back, now!)
To: FreeStateYank
Met him a week and a half ago where he did a presentation based on the material in the book.
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posted on
03/10/2010 11:42:44 AM PST
by
montyspython
("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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