Posted on 03/09/2010 12:18:39 PM PST by Kaslin
March 9, 2010, is the first day that same-sex couples in District of Columbia (D.C.) will be able to have legal marriage ceremonies. More than 100 couples some coming from nearby states have licenses for ceremonies. So-called same-sex marriages are legal in five other states Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont where the words bride and groom are replaced with the names of the individuals, who are each called spouse or Person A and Person B.
Those who oppose same-sex marriage are called by derogatory labels: bigot, narrow-minded, hate-filled among the nicest. Such name-calling obscures the very real problems associated with watering down and denigrating traditional marriage.
Lets begin with the basic argument that people are born gay. Apparently, activists are operating under the assumption that if they say this long enough, people will believe it. Yet the science is not there to substantiate their oft-stated premise that homosexuality is genetic and is immutable. The studies that purport to support the idea have not been replicated; instead, they have been repudiated or considered inconclusive. The generally accepted theory is that some people may be predisposed to emotional vulnerabilities that can be exacerbated by external factors, such as parental approval, social acceptance and gender affirmation. Indeed, a growing number of individuals have chosen to reject the homosexual lifestyle. In addition, there is an acknowledgement, even among homosexuals, that persons can choose their sexuality (be bisexual or not).
Lets look at five other myths associated with same-sex marriage.
Myth #1: Having same-sex couples celebrate their love does nothing to harm anybody elses marriage or damage the institution of marriage.
The argument that what I do is my business and doesnt hurt anybody but me is an old argument that has been refuted in numerous ways. The institution of marriage has existed throughout history in almost every culture to protect women and children. Marriage is already under attack from a promiscuous, me-centered culture that derides any male who gives up his rights for altruistic reasons and labels him a powerless wimp. Likewise, women who hold out for marriage are called prudes and worse. These cultural changes are bad enough. Society opens the floodgates of cultural destruction if marriage becomes meaningless. Counterfeits always devalue the real thing. Counterfeit marriage will lead to anything goes unions. There will be no legal reason to deny anyone the umbrella of marriage. The age of those seeking unions will be irrelevant; their blood relationship wont matter; the number of partners seeking the ceremony or any other characteristic will become meaningless. The whole institution of marriage will be rendered irrelevant. Just look at Scandinavia: they legalized same-sex marriage; now, cohabitation rather than marriage is the prevalent household arrangement.
Myth #2: Same-sex marriage is an equal rights issue.
Activists argue that same-sex marriage is like the civil rights issue of racial equality, that homosexuals deserve the right to marry and have the same benefits and protections of marriage that heterosexuals enjoy. Any denial of that right, they say, violates their equal rights. The reality is that the same-sex marriage effort is more about getting societys approval for behavior; it is not about benefits or protections. All American citizens have the right to marriage, and all the protections that homosexuals seek are already embedded in American law. Anyone can legally designate beneficiaries and establish who can or cannot visit them in hospitals. Clearly the push is for approval, mainstreaming an aberrant set of values and condoning certain behaviors; it is not for establishing rights that already exist. Marriage is more than a legal institution; it is an institution supported by society as a haven for children, the foundation of the family, and the well-spring of civility and national strength. The homosexual activists are seeking a special right, one that denies the human truth that male and female are designed to be one and are created as the natural means for propagating the human race.
Myth #3: Any group of people including homosexual couples can contribute to the well-being of children and form a productive unit of society.
Conveying marital status to any group of people gives them societal affirmation and establishes them as an essential element of society when the research indicates they are not capable of performing those functions. Social science research sends a clear and unequivocal message: the married couple, mom-and-dad family is best for children not just good, but best in comparison to any other household arrangement. Other households (headed by anyone other than the married mother and father) are far inferior and damaging to childrens well-being and their futures. Already our children are at risk from the increase in cohabitation and the decline in marriage. If we add same-sex marriage into the mix, we are disregarding the best interests of our nations children. American children are at risk in carefully-documented ways when they are raised in any household but a married mom-and-dad family: They make worse grades, are likely to drop out of school, more prone to getting into trouble, have greater health problems, are more likely to experiment with drugs and/or alcohol, and will likely engage in early sexual activity and thus be more likely to contract a sexually-transmitted disease, have an abortion(s) and/or teen pregnancy.
Myth #4: Same-sex marriage is a matter of freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.
This is one of the more insidious myths related to same-sex marriage. There is no way to ignore the fact that same-sex marriage violates the deeply-held beliefs of millions of Christian, Jewish and Muslim citizens whose opposition to same-sex marriage is founded on central tenets of their faith. Knowing this, the homosexual activists are working through indoctrination programs for the nations children. Our public schools are becoming the means through which activists plan to change public opinion and the rule of law. Curriculum programs are instilling the idea that there is no legitimate opposition to homosexuality; instead, any opposition is bigoted and hate-filled. Laws are being changed to force innkeepers, businesses and even our social services to celebrate homosexuality.
More to the point, same-sex marriage is already used as a bludgeon to destroy the religious liberties and drive out Christian social services. One recent example: Massachusetts and the District of Columbia have both driven out Catholic adoption agencies, whose moral stand is unacceptable to the homosexual agenda. The radical politics of homosexuality requires orphans to remain without parents at all rather than to allow a Christian agency the religious liberty to find them a home.
Myth #5: Same-Sex Marriages are just like heterosexual marriages.
This last myth is probably the one furthest from the truth. In actuality, homosexual unions have a very short lifespan; many of the same-sex marriages in Massachusetts are already being dissolved. Further, the health risks associated with homosexual practice are very real and very much in evidence in the emergency rooms of hospitals. There is no denying: Homosexual sex is dangerous and destructive to the human body. Both HIV and HPV are epidemic among homosexual men. Domestic violence is a common problem twice as prevalent among homosexual couples as in heterosexual ones. Indeed, legally creating a union does not enable two men or two women to become one flesh, nor does a legal ceremony give the union sanctity. Instead, the ceremony creates a sham that will devalue all marriages. The government establishes standards for measurement and value; to declare a sham union equal to marriage would devalue the standard and render all unions worthless and irrelevant. If the U.S. government establishes same-sex marriages under law, it will be redefining marriage completely and irrevocably. Such a powerful statement will contradict the prevailing social science research: There is a big difference between 1) a family created and sanctioned by society when a man and a woman commit to each other and thus form a cohesive unit, and 2) a couple or group of people who live together to form a household in defiance of the prevailing moral codes to render meaningless an institution that has been the bulwark of the family and society throughout history.
Conclusion: The bottom line is that this social issue is a defining moment for mankind, not just this nation. What the homosexual activists are seeking is not a minor shift in the law, but a radical change in the fundamental institution that forms the basis for society. Will we protect marriage as the primary institution protecting women and children, or will we surrender to the forces that claim no one has obligations to others and that adults can do anything they want in their sexual lives regardless of how those actions affect society, especially children, and undermine the public good?
ROFLMAO
No, you are most assuredly NOT conservative. Whoever told you that (probably a public school teacher) was lying.
Looks like I was not IBTZ. :-(
I was here and didn’t even know they GOT the ZOT. LOL
Thanks for checking and notifying us.
And no they won’t molest your children.
What exactly are you saying? That no homosexuals are child molesters?
Looks like he appealed his Zot and got unzotted.
That being said, I suspect we won't be hearing anymore of this homosexual agenda nonsense from him anymore.
The old rules don’t work anymore.
You’re pretty good at flinging generalizations (sort of like how monkeys fling poop at the zoo) without a scrap of detail.
1. What “old” rules don’t work any more? Be specific.
2. For the “old” rules that you claim don’t work, what substitute “new” rules do you propose?
Let’s get some specifics instead of blanket wild opinions.
I didn’t do anything. My FR life flashed before my eyes though.
Free republic is a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty conservative site. We do not support the homosexual agenda here and THAT is not debatable. Those who don’t like it can take a fricken hike.
There’s very little work on constructing low level social structures that maintain and perpetuate strong families and stable society.
And just “who” or “what” do you propose do this work on “contstructing” low level social structures?
What does the gobbledy gook really mean?
I’d say “low level social structures” would be families; no work needs doing to figure out what they are! Mom, Dad, kids, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins...
Are you done promoting the homosexual agenda on Free Republic?
You are welcome to your opinion, but I have found that your particular opinion on this subject is one that is not particularly welcome on this forum.
So I can say NOW that I am IBTZ. :-)
Inquiring minds would like to know what you are doing to practice what you preach. I like what you said.I owe you a longer response, but my last reply got eaten. I do integration classes with recent immigrants, used to volunteer at a homeless shelter and take part in social events that try to cut a broad swath across society. I'm not perfect by any means but I try be a contributing member of a real civil society.
Free republic is a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty conservative site. We do not support the homosexual agenda here and THAT is not debatable. Those who dont like it can take a fricken hike.Fair enough, I feel like my point was misunderstood, but I've ignited enough of a firestorm that it's better to drop it.
Admin Mod banned your account but I gave you a temporary reprieve due to your longevity here. But you have now been warned and there will be no further reprieves. You can use your free speech rights to promote the homosexual agenda elsewhere if that is your intention.
Id say low level social structures would be families; no work needs doing to figure out what they are! Mom, Dad, kids, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins...Exactly, but how do you have an extended family to lean on when your brothers live in seattle, you live in the midwest and your parents live in the northeast? America's economy has, for the most part, moved to the cities and the economic opportunity can move from location to location quickly. How do you have an extended family in that context?
Admin Mod banned your account but I gave you a temporary reprieve due to your longevity here. But you have now been warned and there will be no further reprieves. You can use your free speech rights to promote the homosexual agenda elsewhere if that is your intention.Thank you. I really didn't mean for this to spiral out of control like it did.
It is not the government’s job to invent support structures for families or individuals. If a person or family has no support structure, it’s THEIR job to find one, invent one or do without. Regarding the responsibility of the community, it is the job of PRIVATE organizations and groups to provide support for needy people.
PRIVATE - NOT government. Churches, synagogues, other faith based groups, private charities - the more local the better - are who should be helping those who need help. And neighbors!
As soon as the government steps in, hell breaks loose. And it has.
It is not the governments job to invent support structures for families or individuals. If a person or family has no support structure, its THEIR job to find one, invent one or do without. Regarding the responsibility of the community, it is the job of PRIVATE organizations and groups to provide support for needy people.I'm not advocating government interference. I'm advocating conservatism have a clearer more positive agenda. It's perfectly fine to know what you don't like, but at the same time you have to know what you *like*. Too much of modern conservative is focused on opposition and too little on coming up with a concrete vision for what an ideal society looks like and how to attain it.PRIVATE - NOT government. Churches, synagogues, other faith based groups, private charities - the more local the better - are who should be helping those who need help. And neighbors!
As soon as the government steps in, hell breaks loose. And it has.
I think one of aspects of conservatism that seems to escape you is that it is up to individuals to decide what is “ideal” and then their individual responsibility to make it happen, personally.
Remember the “pursuit” of happiness. As long as there is life and liberty, the pursuit of happiness is each person’s kuleana. (responsibility, area etc).
I do not want any “manifesto” whether socialist, communist, fascist, utopian, Fabian or so-called “conservative”, telling me what ideal is.
Social structure founded on strong (aka “natural”) families, with the eternal spiritual values that are universal (note my Thos. Jefferson quote) is what is needed, along with government doing what it is Constitutionally mandated, and NOT A SPECK MORE.
No new manifestos needed or wanted.
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