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To: Carry_Okie

I have to agree with you. The 2nd Amendment is for the Federal government to obey, the linking via the 14th is scary at best because if the 2nd in the Bill of Rights must be enforced by all states as it is on the federal it sets up for the potential (a ver real potential) of federal abuse by other legislative means. It is realsitic to suggest that our states governments could become nothing were we to take this to ultimate conclusion. After all, all that has to happen is enough senseless idiots full of themselves and drunk on power like the current Democrat party and give them another short at supermajority then start making Amendments to the constitution that squeek past in enough legislatures to then set up the state as the arbiter of all rights...and not God, from whom all our rights come as per our declaration.

Your thoughts?


8 posted on 03/09/2010 1:41:48 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

If you’re talking about an effort on the scale of amending the US Constitution, anything is possible. That’s what amending means.

The big problem is the way our present day Rats read rights as positive social entitlements rather than negative prohibitions on government encroachment. This is a stupid philosophy but if pressed will create all manner of havoc. The 1st Amendment doesn’t require me to be furnished with a printing press and the 2nd Amendment doesn’t require me to be furnished with a rifle. But they think Roe v. Wade, bad enough as it is of itself, requires any girl to be furnished with an abortion.


9 posted on 03/09/2010 1:54:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ICE-FLYER

That is when you water the tree of liberty.


13 posted on 03/09/2010 5:02:02 AM PST by gunnut
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To: ICE-FLYER; Carry_Okie
"I have to agree with you. The 2nd Amendment is for the Federal government to obey..."

The second is for all to observe. - The constitution did not create the right recognized in the second; it merely stated that it existed, and an existing right is not to be infringed.

That POV came not from the Federal government, but from the states, for it was the states, and thereby the people, that were the authors of the constitution.

The right recognized is not dependent upon the constitution for its existance, and stands above all government, as instituted by the sovereign of the universe; thus the constitution and the ammendments are irrelevant to the question. The right stands on its own merit by the testimony of the several states.

15 posted on 03/09/2010 9:33:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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