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No matter what, he's still a RAT.
1 posted on 03/08/2010 5:12:56 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

stupak is as stupak does.


2 posted on 03/08/2010 5:13:51 PM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Libloather
See? I told you he was a socialist.

I still can't believe that there were some people on this very website who thought that Stupak was some kind of "hero."

3 posted on 03/08/2010 5:14:22 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Cha-ching! I wonder how much the payoff is. Or did he freak out by what 0 did to Massa?


4 posted on 03/08/2010 5:16:00 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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Please don’t resolve it. They’ll get it in one way or another no matter what promises they make to you, Stupak. Keep opposing the whole stinking piece of garbage!!


5 posted on 03/08/2010 5:16:36 PM PST by Faith
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To: Libloather

Sounds like bad news.


6 posted on 03/08/2010 5:17:16 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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In this photo, the elusive "Blue Dog" was thought to have been spotted...

Turns out, it was just Bigfoot.

7 posted on 03/08/2010 5:17:25 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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"Health bill abortion fight can be resolved"

Sure it can, just don't spend any of our tax dollars to fund abortions. Problem solved.

8 posted on 03/08/2010 5:17:28 PM PST by ronnyquest (That's what governments are for: to get in a man's way.)
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Feigned concern for the aborted ones.

Abortion is a major component of any Socialized health care system - Stupak knows this.


9 posted on 03/08/2010 5:17:52 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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I think the plan is for the House to amend the Senate bill, pass it, and send it back to the Senate. The Senate will use reconciliation to consider the House amendments, and then send the corrected bill back to the House for final approval.


11 posted on 03/08/2010 5:19:19 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a ObamaCare--or lose reelection)
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Well that makes this that I just posted rather hollow:

Dem congressman: We may have as little as 201 votes for ObamaCare

12 posted on 03/08/2010 5:21:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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The so-called “moderate” Dems are going to fold like a cheap, empty, suit.


24 posted on 03/08/2010 5:28:14 PM PST by bigbob
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“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ~~ President Ronald Reagan
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
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OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

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SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2466239/posts
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MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


26 posted on 03/08/2010 5:30:55 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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Defeat Obamacare call list: Courtsey of TN Eagle Forum: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.

PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District

Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
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John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
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Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
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Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Gordon (202) 225-4231 TN (MAYBE)
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
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senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
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27 posted on 03/08/2010 5:31:27 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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Don’t kid yourself. He’ll find an out to vote for the bill containing the abortion language.


28 posted on 03/08/2010 5:33:16 PM PST by HarleyD
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Keep in mind folks any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound to comply with any unconstitutional act of Congress.

The people are the government, not Congress or BO?BS> The people have the final say in all matters.
30 posted on 03/08/2010 5:34:43 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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Stupak caves.


43 posted on 03/08/2010 6:02:57 PM PST by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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Wow...this thing’s really going to pass, isn’t it?


45 posted on 03/08/2010 6:04:20 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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NO BAMA-CARE!


48 posted on 03/08/2010 6:10:30 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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Stupak is posing.

He'll vote for "health care" and claim that whatever bullsh#t language that Pelosi/Rahm and Reid put in to the bill can give him cover for his supposed "pro-life" stance.

A democrat is a rat. They lie, it's in their nature to be deceiving, feces eating, bottom dwellers. It's what they do, it's what they are.

It's all a sham.

Once this is voted in, the powers that be will make it impossible for it to be repealed, because they will force businesses to either pay a 16-20% tax on the health care they provide or an 8% fee for government insurance. They will dump their coverage and any effort to make them pick up the "cost" will be seen as a "tax increase" in the future.

The democrats need to be exposed for the lying POS that they are as well as any Republican that wants to "fix" the supposed "health care crisis". It's a crisis made by liberals so that they'd have something to "solve".

If a neutron bomb went off over the capitol while both houses were in session, I'd call it even. Leave the nice monuments , libraries and museums... get rid of the rest of the garbage.

49 posted on 03/08/2010 6:14:13 PM PST by erman (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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RAT.

In the end, no principle matters. Stupak knows full well a vote for the bill in the House means reconciliation never needs to happen - but he’s looking for a hole to hide in, not truth or principle!

RAT.


57 posted on 03/08/2010 6:56:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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