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To: OL Hickory
Competent commanders do not browbeat their command.

It is a sign of softness and weakness to routinely berate and belittle those who are subordinate to you.

Miss Graf is clearly a commander who has completely lost the respect of her command. It is commanders like this who, in a warfighting situation, get good sailors killed because her instincts and her motivations cannot be trusted by her subordinates.

She is clearly not fit to lead.

15 posted on 03/07/2010 8:51:49 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
She is clearly not fit to lead.

Exactly. She is bad news.

22 posted on 03/07/2010 8:55:47 AM PST by rae4palin (islam is of the devil)
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To: wideawake

It is undignified for Sr officers to use this language with the crew. Speak with dignity and brutal clarity to the CPO, then he can go out and curse at the crew.Thats much better!


28 posted on 03/07/2010 8:59:39 AM PST by joelt
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To: wideawake

As an ALO, I spent some time working for two different US Army O-6 screamers that wouldn’t hesitate to berate or cuss at subordinates.

Both were excellent leaders, and I would gladly work again for either one. Both were adored by their men. They were screamers, but they were also very intelligent, driven, passionate men who cared deeply about their soldiers and the mission.

This one seems like an idiot screamer, but it is a sad thing if she is driven out for the screamer part. Drive her out for incompetence if appropriate, but not for cussing or yelling.

FWIW - I’m a retired USAF O-5. And I didn’t hesitate to chew the rear end of a lazy or incompetent subordinate.


50 posted on 03/07/2010 9:22:14 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: wideawake

AMEN. It wasn’t the bad language that makes her deserving of being ousted. Too bad so many here confuse symptoms and causes.


100 posted on 03/07/2010 11:07:35 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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