Posted on 03/05/2010 5:42:54 PM PST by pissant
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I have suggested for some time that “Pop” is about young Barry and his mentor, and that it suggests sexual perversion.
This is an interesting addition to that thesis—that the author might have been Davis rather than young Barry. It is, certainly, an accomplished poem, and unlike Barry, Davis was an experienced writer.
“Pop” was published in the Occidental College student paper, but can be found reprinted in the NY Slimes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18poems.html
Or maybe it was just a young impressionable poet using the style of his mentor and stealing an idea.
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Barry couldn’t afford a TelePrompter then I guess.
And, without knowing that you took that position, I have been in agreement with it. He is an incredibly damaged person.
I have heard instead that - Davis sired Obama when his mom went astray with Davis. He supposedly took pictures of her while she was naked in suggestive poses. It could’ve happened then.
Interesting. I did notice when reading the above poem and the “apes eating figs” poem how crappily written the “apes” one was compared to the “Pop” poem.
Until more evidence is dug up about 0bama, no one knows. Or rather, those who know aren’t telling (yet).
Yes, that’s possible, but not known.
Frank Marshall Davis was a KGB agent sent by Stalin. The Communists of that time believed that ALL sexual morality was simply bourgeois illusion and that religion, along with conventional morality, was the opium of the proletariat, something that had to be eliminated. Davis’s pornographic autobiographical novel describes sex with minor girls, including a menage a trois conducted with his equally slimy wife, as well as pederastic sex with small boys.
Evidently he would sit up evenings with young Barry and give him scotch to drink. It seems likely enough that his grandfather was aware of much of this and approved of it. One way to prove you were a good Communist was to scorn traditional morality and bring your family up to scorn it.
It’s not impossible that Davis could have been Barry’s covert father AND his molestor, both. That’s the kind of guy he was, according to his own book. But no way to tell.
Thanks. I’ve been following his series!
Interesting research/analysis by Cashill as usual. Thanks for posting.
"Obama, do you like figs? Nice, jucy...ripe...figs?"
Here is a search tha talks about the possible link for that information.
I saw a better article last year about this possible paternal link between Obama and Davis and that is why Obama won’t release his birth certificate; and why his writing does not match his writing from his first book. The writing is more in line with what Davis style is. But I forgot to save it. I thought I had.
Who knows!
Both are lousy poems.
I forgot to add that the article I read implied that Davis’s influence and money is how Obama got to go to the elite colleges that he did - because his white grandparents couldn’t have afforded them - or the trip around the world that Obama took.
I don’t know.
Yes, I think that Obama is a malignant narcissist and also is probably gay. Both these severe psychological disorders presumably result from his having been abandoned by his father and his mother, and molested by his “mentor,” who was chosen for him by his grandfather.
It depends what you mean by “lousy poem.” “Pop” is disgusting, and therefore not something you would want to spread around, but I think it’s quite skillfully written for a piece of pornographic trash.
I hadn’t really thought about that aspect of it until reading Cashill’s article just now. But he’s quite right. It’s probably above Obama’s skill level as a writer. Obama is barely capable of expressing himself without a speechwriter to put it on the teleprompter for him. The few things we know he wrote are pedestrian. Could he have written that poem? If so, it’s far better than anything else he has written, stylistically.
I have not studied Barry's writings, but I know what I have read is not the language of an educated man. It is sophomoric at best. Having now seen the other poem that Cashill revealed, I can see that they are written by the same person. No two people would use the same poetic structure and the same idioms. I think that Davis is probably the father and Obama the first was probably paid to be the cover. Obama the second bears no resemblance to the Kenyan. Just my speculation. FWIW
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