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To: kabar
So what part of killing a million people do you not understand? "Do you dispute that the Armenians were engaged in warfare (a war of national liberation) against the Turks..." Turkey had spent generations dealing with wars of liberation against them, so what else is new? That's what happens when a people are oppressed.
68 posted on 03/05/2010 1:24:04 PM PST by montyspython ("I don't believe in 'no win' scenarios." - James T. Kirk)
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To: montyspython
"Do you dispute that the Armenians were engaged in warfare (a war of national liberation) against the Turks..."

Allied with the Soviets. Look Monty, no one on this thread hates Armenians. What you don't seem to understand is this BS from congress hurt them by pissing of the big boy next door....Turkiye. And it certainly does help relations between the US and Turkiye.

70 posted on 03/05/2010 1:31:37 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: montyspython
Is a million supposed to have some reasonance for me? Hundreds of millions have been killed over the centuries by tyrants and in wars. We are talking about genocide. That case has not been proven to my satisfaction nor to the satisfaction of a real scholar on the issue, Bernard Lewis.

The use of the word genocide is politically loaded. It is being pushed by the Armenians for political purposes. They have used it to murder Turkish diplomats around the world, incuding in the US, 70 years after the 1915 events. 21 countries (Israel is not one of them) have recognized it as genocide as well as 44 US states. Much of this has taken place over the past 10 years.

International bodies that recognize the Armenian genocide include the European Parliament, the Council of Europe, the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, the World Council of Churches and the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal. The International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS), has recognised the 1915 genocide in three different resolutions, the latest (October 5, 2007) extending the recognition to, in addition to Armenians, also inlcude the Assyrians/Syrians and Anatolian and Pontic Greeks among the affected minorities.

The NYT, LA Times, Der Spiegel, and the AP have officially recognized it as a genocide. It appears that the issue has become a cause célèbre among the usual gang of Leftists. I am just buying on to it.

74 posted on 03/05/2010 1:43:55 PM PST by kabar
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