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This has been Obama's plan from the very beginning:

ObamaCare + Amnesty = Democratic Votes

If ObamaCare falls apart, so does the rest of the equation.

1 posted on 03/05/2010 7:03:22 AM PST by BP2
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Obozo is a spineless anti-american self serving p!ss on America and Americans kind of person, as long as he gets it his way, who cares.

AT WHAT PRICE SACRIFICE?


67 posted on 03/05/2010 9:11:24 AM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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“If ObamaCare falls apart, so does the rest of the equation.”

I agree, but what we may be facing is a whole bunch of Rats who know that they will be defeated in November going kamikaze and trying to destroy as much as they can as they go down.


70 posted on 03/05/2010 9:35:24 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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Had it not been for 9/11 and the development of Homeland Security, amnesty would have already happened.


71 posted on 03/05/2010 9:43:28 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (Seek truth.)
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Base won’t support you? Get a new base. :)

You wanted “change” America. You got it. :)


74 posted on 03/05/2010 9:55:43 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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Statement: "Obama looking to give new life to immigration reform (Amnesty to illegal aliens)"

Response: Of course they are part of his coalition.

76 posted on 03/05/2010 9:57:15 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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obamacare wont get them a single vote, but it will turn out millions to run him out of office.

The taxes kick in immediately... none of the coverage starts until 2013

ROFL

They have set themselves up for the biggest drubbing in political history, and the Republicans are being gift wrapped the issue of the century “vote for us, and we will repeal obamacare before it ever takes affect”

79 posted on 03/05/2010 10:08:35 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Interesting timing, our church’s guitarist just said he wants to organize a pro-illegal march... much to my pastor’s dismay. So which group is organizing this? The timing is too close to be coincidence.


86 posted on 03/05/2010 10:33:33 AM PST by messierhunter
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Of course. It’s been the plan all along....


87 posted on 03/05/2010 10:33:49 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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I guess he’s going to try to ram this through before November too. I didn’t think I could dislike that Marxist POS any more than I do but he’s proving that wrong every day.


90 posted on 03/05/2010 10:44:46 AM PST by Reagan is King (Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave.)
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To: Favor Center; Arthur Wildfire! March; lmarie373; Abundy; missanne; Victoria Delsoul; 50mm; ...

"[Conservatives are] going to destroy the f*cking [Republican] party...
Why would I want to be the leader of a party of such a**holes?"

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, UNKNOWN

"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 02 APR. 2004

"I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person, a person that you
do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 10 OCT. 2008

"In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, you’ll pay a heavy price.
By the way, I think the fence is least effective.
But I’ll build the g***amned fence if they want it."

U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, FEB. 2007


92 posted on 03/05/2010 10:49:17 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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for later


97 posted on 03/05/2010 11:09:21 AM PST by PMAS
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We’ve been blessed with stupid political enemies.

This wasn’t popular when unemployment was 5%.

It will be hugely unpopular with unemployment where it is today...


99 posted on 03/05/2010 11:43:13 AM PST by DB
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My guess is that Congress is exhausted by 0bama Care.,P>I doubt they look forward to a repeat of the heat they took during the last round. 0bama is Delusional.

Could be the first use of the 25th (?) Amendment.

107 posted on 03/05/2010 1:20:01 PM PST by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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Well, when this passes, we won’t even have to worry about him being here legally any more.


108 posted on 03/05/2010 1:28:57 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
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so this total POS just keeps rolling right along..ignoring the American public and defecating on the Constitution...while more and more people are out of work....but instead of doing things that will give business confidence enough to begin hiring again...this ‘strunz’ is trying like all get out to turn America into a Marxist paradise and its people into peasants.

I loathe this Islamic faker.

110 posted on 03/05/2010 2:15:41 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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July 21, 2006 Two Texans busted in bogus ID operation in NJ
NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security , expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

March 3, 2010 TWO ILLEGAL ALIENS, Cruz Mario Carnacion, 37 and Jose Luis Trejo-Yanez were arrested in possession of more than 500 STOLEN 7-inch spike's that were taken from the railroad tracks owned by Norfolk Southern Railroad.........endangering the lives of hundreds of Americans. This incident is similar to illegal aliens stealing railroad tracks and spikes from railroads near Yuma, AZ, and arrested by US Customs and Border Patrol March 11, 2008.

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Oct 25, 2009 American Patrol Report---Savage Zetas, descendants of the Aztecs, known for beheading and dismembering their enemies, are integrating their primitive savagery into the US.

In his groundbreaking book, Wakeup Call from Mexico, Wilson Beck describes how the dark side of Mexico stretches back to the days of the Aztecs when hundreds of thousands of people were sacrificed and eaten each year. He says today many young men in Mexico are enamored with the idea of being descendants of the Aztecs.

Now, according to the Houston Chronicle, the brutal savage Zetas, known for beheading and dismembering their enemies, are tightening their grip on an area bordering Southern Texas.

Critics say our CIA and State Department are well aware of the dark side of Mexico and regularly brief U.S. presidents on the reality south of the border. “It is unfortunate that Mexico got off to such a bad start,” said Glenn Spencer of the American Patrol Report,” but it is wrong to sacrifice the United States of America to correct problems south of the border.”

Spencer said while Mexicans are being besieged, which is nothing new for them, Americans are being betrayed by a government that refuses to protect them.

Despite this, President Bush and now President Obama have been secretly working to integrate the US and Mexico into a common political and economic unit.

116 posted on 03/05/2010 4:12:33 PM PST by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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FReepers, this will warm the cockles of your heart.

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If any state was ripe for a demonstration of Third World election force, it was the Nov 2009 race for NJ governor. The race was considered a "squeaker" that would go on till all hours. But two hours after the polls closed, the Repub was declared the winner with a comfortable 4-point margin (would have been higher were it not for Dem voter fraud).

The winning Republican Lt Governor candidate----a County Sheriff----was lacerated by latino groups b/c she had applied for the federal 287(g) program. Latinos began an allout assault---accusing the Sheriff of "political pandering" and for scouting incidents of indictable offenses such as driving under the influence by undocumented immigrants coming into the County jail, and asking about about immigration status, regardless of the offense.

The Sheriff had simply sought to ensure that "illegal criminals" were not unduly released for fear illegals would further harm the citizenry and the community.

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Ohaha was heavly invested in the NJ gubernatorial race. Ohaha's carefully laid plans----for installing a permanent Dem majority w/ illegals-----went haywire. Pulling out all the stops for NJ made Ohaha a VERY good target for those disgusted with Ohaha’s policies.

OBAMA WAS DESPERATE FOR A NJ WIN TO PROTECT THE WH AGENDA. Obama put the power of the WH machine behind Corzine. The NY Times reported:
(a) every TV ad Corzine put on the air was being screened by Obama's WH team.
(b) Corzine's aides gave the WH daily briefings.
(c) Obama’s pollsters took over for Corzine’s polling team.
(d) White House operatives were on the ground for internal strategy sessions.
(e) White House operatives were orchestrating obscure pep rallies with Latinos (kept secret from voters).
(f) Corzine had a "Peruvian Pac" endorsing him.
(g) Ohaha campaigned in the state three times, Biden was there twice. Ohaha TV ads ran relentlessly in costly NY media markets.
(h) Corzine promised to give illegals driving credentials & in-state tuition.
(i) Corzine sucked up bigtime and REFUSED to enforce current immigration laws.
(j)Corzine formed a Blue Ribbon committee of latinos and other hypenates who were using tax dollars to mine votes for Corzine.
(k) Also sucking up to illegals was Democrat US Sen Robert Menendez, a Spanish-speaking Corzine campaigner.
(l)Corzine appointed latinos to the Supreme Court and to other high profile state jobs.

Other pertinent facts:

>> Incumbent Dem Jon Corzine (the wealthy loser) outspent the Repub winner about 4-1.
>> New Jersey has a huge Democratic registration.
>> Corzine bragged he had 20,000 paid union helpers on the ground election day to get out the vote.
>> There was a third party candidate siphoning off Republican votes.
>> Corzine had the power of incumbency.
>> Corzine had the power of a crooked Democrat Machine cooking the vote.
>> Ohaha hid $17.5 BILLION stimlulus in New Jersey.....for Corzine's reelection campaign.

And still Corzine lost.

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The WH's lack of political savvy was glaringly on display. Early in the NJ campaign, an onslaught of weird WH approved-ads blanketed the pricey NY media markets-----showed Ohaha at a NJ rally praising Corzine---with strange "reaction shots" of people w/ deadpan faces, watching Ohaha. Predictably Corzine's numbers fell precipitously.

But WH know-it-alls still didn't "get it." Ohaha and Biden came back to NJ---more weird Ohaha ads ensued. Corzine also ran sap-happy liberal "I got feelings" ads. None of the pundits thought the Repubs could pull it off. The rest is history. It appears the WH bombed.....the unions failed Corzine.....and the Latino suckup failed.

THE UPSHOT According to Ohaha's slimy Press Secretary, Robert Gibbs, Ohaha was "busy with other matters" election night and "wasn't really concerned" with election results... an indication the WH is sucking up valium and vodka in order to anesthetize themselves from the aftermath.....trying to convince themselves the election was not a referendum on Obama, and the futile push for amnesty.

Then came the shock of Massachusetts.

Amnesty means Third World Mob Rule. Ohaha is smoking something illegal if he thinks Americans will become accustomed to Third World mob rule---just on his say-so.

117 posted on 03/05/2010 4:20:28 PM PST by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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Undocumented workers would need to register, pay taxes and pay a penalty for violating the law. Failure to comply might result in deportation.

This reminds me of what Obama is saying about saving money in Medicare by going after the fraud and all. To which I reply to both the illegals and Medicare - why the heck aren't y'all doing that already. Why does a bill have to be passed to be doing what should be done already?

118 posted on 03/05/2010 5:01:33 PM PST by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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Obama took up the issue privately with his staff Monday in a bid to advance a bill through Congress before lawmakers become too distracted by approaching midterm elections.

Participants in the White House gathering also pointed to an immigration rally set for March 21 in Washington as a way to spotlight the issue and build needed momentum.

"Right now we have a little problem with the 'Chicken Little' mentality: The sky is falling and consequently we can't do anything," Rep. Raul M. Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said in an interview.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said in an interview, "The things you hear from the administration won't be well received."

Among proponents, there is a consensus that a proposal must move by April or early May to have a realistic chance of passing this year. If that deadline slips, Congress' focus is likely to shift to the November elections, making it impossible to take up major legislation.

When it comes to immigration, Obama's strategy echoes that of healthcare. He has deferred heavily to Congress, leaving it up to Schumer and Graham to reach a breakthrough with the idea that he would put his weight behind the resulting compromise.

Come again?

Obama's strategy echoes that of healthcare.

And that strategy is...?

"They've had enough of this yearlong effort to get a win for the Democratic Party at any price to the American people," McConnell said on the Senate floor.

At any price to the American People...

And if the price is determined by Little Bammy and the Øbots pushing the stupid button too many times thus actually putting a live spark to this fuel soaked tinderbox juuust full of pizzed off real American Citizens?

HA!

That it is “settled” and they best just mind their betters?

Yea. Uh-huh. Right. Gotcha.

Those very same American Citizens are NOT gonna let some effeminate punk commie from Chicago tell them they are all tax slaves that must support criminal illegal alien freeloaders.

They will go on the biggest "souvenir hunt" in the history of this entire planet. And after the recent reiteration by Napolitano that she was right about the little Homeland Insecurity Report calling nearly all American Citizens, SPECIFICALLY VETERANS, highly suspect potential "domestic terrorists" Little Bammy and the Øbots should not count on support from the bulk of the military if they find themselves "spending time indoors."

CWI will have been a schoolyard slapfight in comparison. The MSM, libs, commie-wanna-be's and pubLick skool dullards will try to stick with the commie-lib-MSM story that fault for the backlash belongs solely to evil conservative Republicans for such an event and "white" will be a word in the middle of their EVERY sentence.

And they will be mowed like three week old spring grass...

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126 posted on 03/06/2010 7:22:29 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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From a California school teacher - - -

“As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its student’s average lowers socioeconomic and income levels. Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I’m not talking a glass of milk and roll - but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial.. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them “Putas” whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me, I’ll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won’t have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third- world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about “politically correctness” that we don’t have the will to do anything about it.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn’t that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn’t want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don’t want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don’t want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase “cheap labor” is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as “cheap labor.”

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an “earned income credit” of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer’s expense.

He doesn’t worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people.


134 posted on 03/06/2010 3:39:29 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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