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To: BP2

For the LAST time.

Your argument:

I don’t trust Obama, so therefore the COLB is false. Because whenever you don’t trust somebody, all their documents are obviously false and forgeries.

My argument:

I don’t trust Obama, but the COLB looks real. And there were the birth announcements.

YOU engage in circular reasoning. I don’t trust Obama so his COLB is false. His COLB is false so I don’t trust him. Since I don’t trust him...

So drop it. If you want to “dis-believe” go for it. Spend your spare time analyzing every noun and verb in HDOH press releases. Scour the world for any old book you can find from 1789 backwards that says what you want it to say. Ignore all the ones that don’t. Go tell an American court that WONG is wrong, and they were just flat wrong for using English common law to determine intent. Tell other birthers the same thing, too, if you want.

And tell the American court what those other birthers told the Indiana Court. Remember from last week?:

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf

The Birther’s Argument (based on Vattel and the usual speeches from whoever they find):

Contrary to the thinking of most people on the subject, there’s a very clear distinction between a ‘citizen of the United States’ and a ‘natural born citizen.’(page 12)

The Court’s Smackdown of the Birthers’ :

Based upon the language of Art. II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “Natural Born Citizens” for Art. II, section 1. purposes, regardless of the citizenship of the parents.” (Page 17)

If you want to ignore that, than by all means be my guest. It is, after all, one whole sentence. But someday when you are sitting there with egg on your face, remember Old Parsy, and how you had a choice..

parsy, the noble and long suffering


729 posted on 03/05/2010 6:31:26 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
Well, since this thread has gone a little starkers...

A birth certificate includes time of birth, medical personnel name, hospital...

The most fascinating of all the details of this erstwhile "conspiracy" is that Stanley Ann Durham is on record as starting college classes three weeks after Obama's birthday--in Seattle. A three-week old infant from Hawaii to Seattle in 1961. She was still a teenager. A teenage girl gave birth in Hawaii and got to Seattle three weeks later, in 1961. This one fact is more interesting than any of the others.

But, wow, this thread is amazing.

734 posted on 03/05/2010 6:41:01 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: parsifal; All

> I don’t trust Obama, but the COLB looks real.

It's deeper than Obama, Parsy. IT'S NOT JUST OBAMA.

It also involves Obama's 2008 Chicago Campaign office, hand-picked political hacks at FactCheck, and Nancy Pelosi at the DNC. You could never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than the cast of characters surrounding Obama’s FactCheck “birth certificate”.

Let's try it the other way for you, Parsy.

Do you TRUST the Chain of Custody of ...

Ms Taitz - and -

Lucas Smith

... with THIS document?
Photobucket

Please compare and contrast with
the Obama FactCheck COLB.


749 posted on 03/05/2010 9:23:42 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: parsifal; All

> I don’t trust Obama, but the COLB looks real.

Actually, the Chain of Custody would look more like this ...

Do you TRUST the Chain of Custody of:

Undisclosed assistants in Kenya -and-

Lucas Smith -and-

Ms Taitz

... with THIS document?
Photobucket

Please compare and contrast with
the Obama FactCheck COLB.


758 posted on 03/05/2010 9:37:40 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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