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1 posted on 03/04/2010 8:13:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Joanne follows the Money...


2 posted on 03/04/2010 8:15:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

People need to ask themselves......Would Al Gore even be involved in this if he wasn’t making millions of dollars? I seriously doubt it. He will continue the lie until there’s no money in it for him.


4 posted on 03/04/2010 8:19:23 AM PST by RC2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yep, there are a lot of oil companies that give funding to environmental groups. If they can “raise awareness” about an environmental concern these environmental groups will apply pressure to various congressmen to write an obscure law to regulate energy. More often than not, the congressman will write the law to favor that same energy company.
The enviromentalists are duped and think they’ve won, the company gets favorable laws that stifle competition and the congressman gets a nice campaign contribution from both parties.
It’s a toxic and corrupt scheme they’ve got going on.


7 posted on 03/04/2010 8:25:29 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

DUH!


11 posted on 03/04/2010 8:42:15 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS ... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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Related thread:

Investors Representing $13 Trillion Call on U.S. and Other Countries to Move Quickly - on AGW Laws)

12 posted on 03/04/2010 8:43:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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“Big Green” needs to become a reviled term just as the lefties use the term “Big Oil”, etc.


13 posted on 03/04/2010 8:44:34 AM PST by ZGuy
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Related thread with article from JoNova:

The big picture: 65 million years of temperature swings

15 posted on 03/04/2010 8:51:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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I would like to see a real scientific study done to look at the cause v effect of CO2 in the atmosphere. Here are a couple of postulates:

1) Several, including myself, have taken the position that rising sea temparatures result in the release of additional levels of gased, including CO2. To me, this is a given. In this instance CO2 is a result, not a cause of global warming.

2) Here's one I haven't heard discussed before. Since carbon is an essential component of all life, animal and human, the decomposition of dead flora and fauna results in CO2 being generated. Now, in colder temperatures, the decomposition occurs much less rapidly than in warmer climates. So, to me, this is another indication that as temperatures increase, the creation of CO2 would also increase; again, the temperature increase causes the increase in CO2.

I would like to see addtional instances - with quantitative measures - of these and similar examples. And, since life forms must contain carbon, it seems to me that we must make a stronger and stronger case to those in authority, and keep pounding away in our messages to the masses that carbon is not evil.

Since the medium is the message, we need to continue to provide actual proof in a rational manner of the real science going on here. And put the numbers with the proof.

16 posted on 03/04/2010 9:11:10 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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If all fossil fuels are in effect “taxed”, consumers will pay the tax anyhow, and past price rises in crude oil suggest consumers will not consume much less fuel, so profits won’t actually fall that much.

The incentive of the oil companies, is that carbon penalties will affect coal more than they will affect oil, because coal puts more CO2 into the air per BTU of energy than oil (which also gets energy from the combustion of the hydrogen in the hydrocarbon molecule). Restrictions on coal power generation shifts things in favor of natural gas.

17 posted on 03/04/2010 9:19:54 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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