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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I’m fine with ‘moral conservatism’ and I don’t think it’s the opposite of liberty. However, it isn’t liberty when the government is deciding what the morals are. When government decides what’s ‘moral’, that’s how we end up with transfat bans and forced crappy light bulbs as part of our ‘morality’. That ain’t liberty.

I’m tired of liberals forcing their morality or lack-thereof on me. I’m tired of them trying to indoctrinate my children. However, that doesn’t mean I think that the answer is more of the same, but with new management deciding what’s moral.


19 posted on 03/03/2010 8:13:30 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I’m fine with ‘moral conservatism’ and I don’t think it’s the opposite of liberty. However, it isn’t liberty when the government is deciding what the morals are. When government decides what’s ‘moral’, that’s how we end up with transfat bans and forced crappy light bulbs as part of our ‘morality’. That ain’t liberty.

I agree - but that cuts to the issue. If the government isn't the arbiter of morals - and it's not - then what is? We ourselves, each one individually, regardless of the effect it has on other members of the commonwealth? That's not self-government, either. But now, we're crossing that uncomfortable line whereby people might be held to eternal moral standards that exist regardless of any government...

22 posted on 03/03/2010 8:25:37 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
but with new management deciding what’s moral.

Each man was doing what was right in his own eyes.

May not be familiar to you, but what happened after that statement, was a repudiation of your position.

37 posted on 03/03/2010 11:08:54 AM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Most states had state churches in 1789.


47 posted on 03/03/2010 1:56:12 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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