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To: NYer

Christianity (not the religion itself, but so called followers of the religion) eventually overcame it’s “kill anyone who doesn’t convert” mentality and I pray that this Muslim leader will lead the way for Islam to follow suit.

I want to make a note that I understand the vast difference between Christianity and Islam (primarily that Jesus was a loving and forgiving Savior and Mohammed was a violent pedophile), but that people abused the name of Christ to enforce political power. Ironically, I think the same abuse is being used with Islam. If Christians can overcome using violent verses as excuses from the Old Testament, Islam can overcome it’s violent instructions in the Koran.

Hope I haven’t angered any Freepers, just some thoughts about this. Either way, this is a good thing. I just hope this guy can keep his head. Too many scumbags out there get their power from issuing terroristic fatwas.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 5:52:43 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine
"If Christians can overcome using violent verses as excuses from the Old Testament, Islam can overcome it’s violent instructions in the Koran." Wrong, absurd conclusion.

You are making a routine mistake of equivalency between faiths. The two religions couldn't be anymore dissimilar.

Islam by it's own admission is inherently violent. Islam is based upon greed, lust and murder! Islam grants it's adherants license to commit the worst acts imaginable with a license from god.

That's why it's so seductive toward men. If you read the koran, you will notice a complete lack of stories about peace, compassion and love. The Bible is all about compassion! It rarely speaks about man's baser instincts, the koran is all about appealling to the worst contents of man's character.

13 posted on 03/03/2010 7:35:55 AM PST by STD (-Obama's Riding The Trojan Horse of Islam)
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To: autumnraine
Jesus was a loving and forgiving Savior and Mohammed was a violent pedophile

The difference between Islam and Christianity is clear. Christians will forgive. Muslims will kill.

Killing is the nature of their religion. You see the first example played out today in Islamic countries. Somali adulterer stoned to death

The example of Mohamed on forgivness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206

There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.

The example of Jesus on forgivness (John 8:1-11)

But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."

14 posted on 03/03/2010 7:48:16 AM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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To: autumnraine

Christianity never had a “kill anyone who doesn’t convert” mentality.

Murderers will use any excuse, including Christianity, if it suits their needs.


15 posted on 03/03/2010 7:56:04 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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