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1 posted on 03/02/2010 12:18:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Bottom line, lying is good science, trust me.


2 posted on 03/02/2010 12:20:30 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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3 posted on 03/02/2010 12:21:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Jones admitted sending the “pretty awful e-mails,” but insisted that the MPs didn’t realize that secrecy is a critical part of the scientific method

LOL...amazing chutzpah to lie so blatantly. And here I thought part of science was to present one's theories and the data and then have peers attempt to reproduce results and test hypotheses.

4 posted on 03/02/2010 12:25:54 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

How are Al Gore, James Hanson and this guy any better than Bernie Madoff?


5 posted on 03/02/2010 12:26:10 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Certain types of secrecy are often part of legitimate scientific research, especially temporary secrecy, to prevent competitors from stealing information that was expensive to compile or discover and rushing to publish research on it, patent it, and commercialize it, leaving the team which may have done 90% of the work high and dry. And obviously secrecy about individual patient identities is the norm, meaning that raw data (i.e. patient files) from which data was complied for analysis, must be kept secret, and not available for direct review. But none of this has anything to do with Mr. Jones and his pathetic excuses. He’ll be lucky if he can get a job teaching elementary school science at this point. He is now a former scientist.


6 posted on 03/02/2010 12:32:13 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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"I don’t think there is anything in those emails that really supports any view that I, or the CRU, have been trying to pervert the peer review process in any way."

Ahem...
LAME
11 posted on 03/02/2010 12:39:53 PM PST by PowderMonkey
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Whatever university gave this man his diploma should demand he give it back! What a disgraceful thing to say. All science is supposed to depend on honesty and peer review to try to disprove it, that is what makes it science.


12 posted on 03/02/2010 12:45:38 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump


18 posted on 03/02/2010 4:27:58 PM PST by VOA
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bump


19 posted on 03/02/2010 4:28:19 PM PST by VOA
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And he claimed it was not ’standard practice’ to release data and
computer models so other scientists could check and challenge research.

So at least some major academic scientists no longer believe in
the cardinal principals of “falsify-ability” or “free exchange of data”
so that models can be either proven or dis-proven.

It’s sad to NOT see other academic scientists falling on the neck
of “Professor” Phil Jones.
And denouncing his Bill-Clintonesque view of how to get ahead in academia.


20 posted on 03/02/2010 4:33:25 PM PST by VOA
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