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British irate over Hillary comments on Falklands (Another Zero middle finger to the UK)
Hot Air ^ | March 2, 2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/02/2010 7:35:41 AM PST by C19fan

The Obama administration continued its “smart power” efforts with America’s closest ally by demanding that the UK negotiate with Argentina over the Falkland Islands. Hillary Clinton appeared with Argentina’s President Kristina Kirchner yesterday for a press conference in which she pushed for talks to settle the status of the islands — which the British already consider completely settled now. Nile Gardiner calls Hillary’s comments a “slap in the face” to the UK.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: clinton; falklands; obama; uk
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To: SpinnerWebb

Look at his shoes.


41 posted on 03/02/2010 8:23:17 AM PST by stormer
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To: NVDave

They’ll actually have to help themselves for a change.


42 posted on 03/02/2010 8:25:08 AM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: Carley

I wonder are they still cheering Obama in England?


43 posted on 03/02/2010 8:29:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: joethedrummer

Cue Elton John...


44 posted on 03/02/2010 8:31:56 AM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: C19fan

bttt


45 posted on 03/02/2010 8:39:06 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Something is seriously wrong when the .gov plans to treat citizens worse than they treat terrorists)
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To: camle

The history of the Falklands is both clear from the record and foggy from Argentine revisionism.

The islands were first sighted by the English vessel “Desire” in 1592. The first recorded landing was by the English in 1690. Captain John Strong named them the Falkland Islands after Lord Falkland, a major financier of his voyage.

The Falklands principal value was as a resupply station for English ships rounding Cape Horn. The race for dominance in developing the new world made them a desirable plum for not only England, but France, Spain and Holland.

The colonial upstarts in America may have contributed to the controversy by their rebellion against England. In 1776 the British left the outpost, in their view temporarily. In addition to being an economic decision forced by the necessity of focusing naval power on the rebellion in the American colonies, some historians credit an outbreak of disease as a cause.

The British left plaques on their headquarters in the Falklands stating their intention of maintaining their of continued sovereignty over the islands and declaring their intention to return in short order.

Argentina, which became free from Spain in 1816, claims that they inherited the Islands because in addition to France, Holland and sealers from various other countries, the Spanish had temporarily occupied the islands before the British returned.

The British claim is that one doesn’t loose the right to his home because he left to visit his parents or to go to the supermarket or the hospital.

The Argentine claim is that if you ring another’s doorbell and get no response, you can break in and claim squatters rights of de-facto ownership.

It is true that the British won the modern Falklands War, and Argentina signed away it’s claim as a result, but the Argentines haven’t gotten it yet.

When I was last in Buenos Aires about ten years ago, there was still a big sign on the way to the airport, “Las Malvinas Son Argentinas,” i.e., “The [Falklands] are really the Malvinas and are ours.”

Kinda like Fat Albert’s claim that he really won Florida.....


46 posted on 03/02/2010 8:46:38 AM PST by LoneStarC
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To: C19fan

I suppose we should negotiate returning Texas to Mexico.

NOT!


47 posted on 03/02/2010 9:11:24 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: C19fan

The Brits are not too smart to oppose Hussein and his pal Hillary.


48 posted on 03/02/2010 9:16:57 AM PST by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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To: C19fan

After the insulting and boorish Brit Russel Brand’s act on the MTV awards show of 2008 pushing for OBAMA, I could give a damn. Actually, I am now enjoying watching the Islamification of the UK sort of as payback for that. Having their favored Obama give the UK a finger is just icing on the cake.


49 posted on 03/02/2010 9:18:27 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: C19fan
Niles Gardiner calls the Hilary's comments a "slap in the face" to the UK.

I had thought that there must be something in the mindset of the Argentines to claim possession. I take the liberty of using a few facts from Wikipedia. The history of these islands could scarcely be more convoluted. In 1811 Spain gave up on these apparently worthless islands. There was no Argentina. There was what was called the "United Provinces of the River Plate". A Luis Vernet was commissioned to make some sort of settlement there and he owed allegance to these Provinces.

He established Puerto Luis. He had American whaling vessels impounded and crews detained. The US sent a warship USS Lexington and they settled the matter and damaged Puerto Luis. The jurisdiction of Vernet was not recognised by the US. By 1833, Charles Darwin indicated that it was Great Britain who had domain. So in actual fact Argentina did not exist at one time.

Few dare support Hilary on this web site. I am sure she has to consult the President in this matter. I have an idea that he has an absolute dislike for Great Britain. That dislike goes back to his father's politics in Kenya.

51 posted on 03/02/2010 9:39:28 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: LoneStarC
There's another problem. The right of self determination is a right that is recognised in International Law. A poll of the islanders has determined that 87% of the islanders do not want any negotiations with Argentina about sovereignty under any circumstances, which puts a bit of a damper on Argetina's claim.
52 posted on 03/02/2010 12:10:38 PM PST by Timocrat
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To: guerito1

Some people in Britain supported Obama. I didn’t. In any case, it wasn’t the people of Britain who elected Obama, Americans only have themselves to blame for that....


53 posted on 03/03/2010 11:13:17 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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