[Sender]

That is exactly right. When some gangstas shoot it out or hose down someone’s house with illegal guns, either shoot them or arrest them. When someone robs a business at gunpoint, either shoot him or arrest him. Throw the live ones in prison for a long time. If they would just follow these simple laws, pretty soon the problems would be greatly reduced. It is NOT the fault of law-abiding gun owners that crime continues to be a problem.

[thulldud]

The elephant in the room is the criminals in government. The criminals in the street are their buddies, since high crime stats give government an excuse to cinch up the chains on the law-abiding sheeple. And the sheeple are the natural prey of both the crooks in the street and the crooks in the government.

And the crooks don't want them(us) shooting back.