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Who are the real conspiracy theorists?
WND ^ | 3/1/2010 | Joseph Farrah

Posted on 03/01/2010 3:51:30 AM PST by patlin

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To: ari-freedom
Obama’s mother was American so that also makes him a natural born American.

Obama's mama was so American she married two foreign nationals and moved out of the country to live with one of them. Would be interesting if she legally retained her U.S. citizenship during this time. About the only way her son was a natural born "American" is if her marriage to his alleged father was invalidated by the father's apparent act of bigamy.

81 posted on 03/01/2010 7:11:48 AM PST by edge919
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To: Kenny Bunk
After all, a duly appointed AG, serving under an elected Republican Governor, has given his authorization to a state agency, The Hawaiian Department of Health, to declare Obama (of all things) "a Natural Born Citizen."

The government of the state of Hawaii has the same credibility as the Obama White House at this point.

82 posted on 03/01/2010 7:14:01 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: ari-freedom

“Were they born in the USA? No. Obama was born in Hawaii.”

You state this as a fact. You’d believe absoulutely anything... in fact - you’ve already proven yo’ll believe anything stuck in front of your eyes.

What does it feel like to be an accomplice to one of the worlds most notorious crimes? (hint: Oboy has never been eligible for the office his sorry butt sits in.)

I’m still waiting for any of you to refute evidence that Oboy is still a British citizen since he was born to a British father and that there is NO record/document of Oboy rescinding/relenquishing that british citizenship. Read the British constitutional documents......as far as I can tell - there is nothing that ‘undoes’ that British citizenship. Show me.

Of all the documents you’d think he would want the world to see - it would be this one.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


83 posted on 03/01/2010 7:15:17 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: ari-freedom
that is what “citizens of the United States at birth” means.

Citizen does not equal NBC for POTUS elegibility.

Anchor baby's are considered citizens, by a perversion of the 14th, are they eligible in your view too?

84 posted on 03/01/2010 7:15:53 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: ari-freedom

Once again you are mixing ‘citizen’ with ‘natural born citizen’


85 posted on 03/01/2010 7:16:57 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: DJ MacWoW
In this case an honest Notary is the better official. It is tragic that our great nation's Chief Justice doesn't maintain a higher standard of duty than a common honest Notary.

Not all Notaries are honest, that's for sure. But we all should expect our Nation's Chief Justice to equal the best of the them in integrity.

86 posted on 03/01/2010 7:18:36 AM PST by bvw
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To: Uncle Chip

Ya whatever....

What do you do if he never rescinds/relenquishes his British citizenship? Have you seen the document replacing his British citizenship with a US citizenship?

As far as I can tell - nothing removes his Bristish citizenship automatically. I’m all ears.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

I’ll keep posting all this until someone can categorically refute it.


87 posted on 03/01/2010 7:23:00 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: DJ MacWoW

remember when Kerry called for a global test?

“No president, through all of American history, has ever ceded — and nor would I — the right to preempt in any way necessary, to protect the United States of America,” the Democrat told moderator Jim Lehrer during the debate.

“But if and when you do it, Jim, you’ve got to do it in a way that passes the, the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people, understand fully why you’re doing what you’re doing, and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.”


88 posted on 03/01/2010 7:23:26 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: bvw

Remember that Roberts had to give the oath twice since he fumbled the first time and they wanted to make sure there was no constitutional problem.


89 posted on 03/01/2010 7:35:33 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: algernonpj; Uncle Chip; DJ MacWoW
A natural born citizen is not the same as a native born citizen. The definition of a natural born citizen is a person born in the US to two US citizens. The definition is meant to eliminate dual loyalties.

Team Obama, with unlimited funds behind it, has invested in a strategy to conflate two very simple English words: "Native," and "Natural."

That's because it is possible, but unproven, to make the claim that Obama is an Hawaiian Native. (Make that "Native of Hawaii!") It is impossible, and therefore unproveable, to claim that he is a "Natural Born Citizen."

Therefore, their whole strategy rests on the premise that a "Native Born Citizen" is just as good as a "Natural Born Citizen," which of course, is absolutely true, with one Constitutional exception. The exception being the ability to run for, and serve as POTUS.

The theory, which Team Obama probably had hoped to test in a SCOTUS of their own appointees, is that it is a Civil Right of every citizen, regardless of how that citizenship was obtained, to run for the office of, and serve as POTUS.
Bottom Line: Team Obama and their supporters feel that an "anchor baby" born to two illegal aliens should be eligible to run for and serve as POTUS, and that a naturalized citizen (e.g., Schwarznegger) should have that same Civil Right, because all citizens should be absolutely equal in every way.

The Founders held the view that the "Natural Born Citizen" issue is not a matter of Civil Rights, but of National Security.

Team Obama's massive investment seems to be rather successful so far, to judge from the confusion, real or otherwise, on our site.

90 posted on 03/01/2010 7:38:44 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: ari-freedom
There is a bigger Constitutional problem than the failure to properly repeat the Oath specified in the Constitution. Just the third sentence prior to that oath:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

91 posted on 03/01/2010 7:47:39 AM PST by bvw
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To: ari-freedom

Nowhere in there is Kerry claiming that he’s a “citizen of the world”.


92 posted on 03/01/2010 7:56:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: 2Wheels
My last statement included your premise that the clintons are owned. ..."party capos STOPPED THEM."

It begins to look like obama is the sacrificial, one-term guy and hillary will show up to "clean up his mess". I just hope and pray that "sacrifical" is only a metaphor.

God help us all if anything happens to obumbum before the elections. (it would be the democrats doing the wet work, by the way)

93 posted on 03/01/2010 7:57:26 AM PST by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Therefore, their whole strategy rests on the premise that a "Native Born Citizen" is just as good as a "Natural Born Citizen," which of course, is absolutely true, with one Constitutional exception. The exception being the ability to run for, and serve as POTUS.

And another point as well. By "native born", the Obamabots mean "anchor babies". Though we now unfortunately recognize them as "citizens" through a misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, Justice Waite in Minor versus Happersett called their citizenship into question.

94 posted on 03/01/2010 7:58:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If you believe the rest of the world should be able to determine US policy then that makes you a citizen of the world.


95 posted on 03/01/2010 7:58:57 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: algernonpj
Once again you are mixing ‘citizen’ with ‘natural born citizen’

And doing so deliberately.

96 posted on 03/01/2010 7:59:03 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
The Founders held the view that the "Natural Born Citizen" issue is not a matter of Civil Rights, but of National Security.

And how many can't understand this point! Some of them Freepers. And they ignore the contempt that native Hawaiians have for the mainland. Obama, while in Hawaii, was raised in that atmosphere. Relatives in Kenya. Lived in Indonesia. Best friend from Pakistan. This man has no ties to America. Mom and apple pie is something contemptible to him.

97 posted on 03/01/2010 8:02:05 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ari-freedom

“yes they would. I’m sure Kerry, Rangel and Frank along with many other 100% American born and raised leftists would.”

Ari.....Your arguments are nothing short of ridiculous. I suppose you’ve chatted with Kerry, Rangel and Frank to support your statement?
Why are you playing in this forum? You look really silly, but I doubt you know it. Reminds me of Oboy, Kerry, Rangel and Frank.


98 posted on 03/01/2010 8:06:47 AM PST by 2Wheels
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To: ari-freedom; Fred Nerks
Except that's not what Bam is talking about. Hawaiians have contempt for the mainland. Obama, while in Hawaii, was raised in that atmosphere. Relatives in Kenya. Lived in Indonesia. Best friend from Pakistan. This man has no ties to America. Mom and apple pie is something contemptible to him. His father arrived in Hawaii and gave lectures to Union members. Obama Sr was an activist.

Obama has hidden his past. And you trust that he's telling the truth?

99 posted on 03/01/2010 8:08:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: 2Wheels

“Ari.....Your arguments are nothing short of ridiculous. “

Pot calling the kettle black. Go ahead with your fringe conspiracy theories but don’t force the rest of the conservative movement to go down with that sinking ship.


100 posted on 03/01/2010 8:14:44 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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