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To: TigerLikesRooster
This is a good article. Karl Denninger of the Market Ticker forum has made similar observations. He notes that this was a credit led recession, caused by foolish lending practices.

The consumer was fooled by an unsustainable bubble in housing prices and took on way too much debt. HELOCs were foolishly used to finance purchases of autos, electronics, and lavish vacations. Securitization of the debt let the foolish lenders offload these toxic assets onto foolish investors. When the housing market collapsed, it sent a ripple effect through the economy.

The government - led by both parties over the years - has fudged the numbers on GDP, CPI, and unemployment to hide the severity of the problem. Denninger has noted that state sales tax receipts are the most reliable indicator of the health of the economy. The Rockefeller Institute just released the results for the last quarter and they still suck. The consumer still needs to pay down a boatload of debt before they can spend again. Most of the "growth" during the last decade (or two) was really "pulled forward" demand financed with debt. This is not equivalent to growth produced by increased productions.

I suspect that it will take at least a decade for the economy to recover, if it ever does. I fear a "perfect storm" caused by the convergence of profligate government spending and a lower wage base (caused by off-shoring more and more good jobs) is likely to cause an unprecedented crash before a recovery. Both the Bush and Obama administrations as well as most state governments have spending growth at rates far greater than the growth of wages. As Denninger pointed out in today's blog entry, these are two coupled exponential functions that rapidly diverge. The math doesn't lie. The course is unsustainable. The question is not if there will be a crash but when.

14 posted on 02/28/2010 11:44:23 PM PST by RochesterFan
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To: RochesterFan

Thanks for your analysis. Makes sense.


15 posted on 03/01/2010 12:02:37 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (I think we met before in a past life, and I was a witch back then, too!)
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To: RochesterFan
Excellent post and a spot-on analysis. To couple a few other points with your comments, may I say, that one, the U.S. and its 'leaders' seem think that a consumer driven economy is a 'good thing'.

Well yes, consumer spending is a measure of the speed of money, but, like your point, debt driven consumer spending only works in the near term.

Second, the other point is that goobermint spending (the size of goobermint) is way out of line with the ability of this countries actual production.

Third, our 'leaders' need to admit that all the recent goobermint expansion the last 15 years was based upon a conspired artificially created credit/debt bubble.

The US simply needs to start producing more of what it consumes in order to strengthen it economy and that will not happen until goobermint reduces its spending, corporate taxes and bureaucratic red tape.

16 posted on 03/01/2010 2:24:20 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RochesterFan
The question is not if there will be a crash but when.

The question (the only question) is, what will happen to the parasite class, swollen by decades of bipartisan public policy, when the host dies?

19 posted on 03/01/2010 3:53:05 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: RochesterFan
I fear a "perfect storm" caused by the convergence of profligate government spending and a lower wage base

It isn't getting any better. I live in a midwestern city of ~200K. We have one of the best bus systems in the US for a city of our size. Local politicians still want to spend 100's of million dollars of federal money on a light rail system. The idea was killed off during the Bush administration. Now with stimulus money sloshing around, they are back at it again. Since it has been several years, they are starting the process over again. That means new junkets to Europe and Japan on the tax payers dime.

20 posted on 03/01/2010 4:07:14 AM PST by EVO X
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